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What's the most 'bombastic' piece you play? #409520
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Mine would be Rach's C # minor prelude. Unfortunately, it qualifies as BOTH bombastic AND hackneyed...

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Re: What's the most 'bombastic' piece you play? #409521
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Nothing recently; I've been playing Haydn and Schoenberg smile . If we can include self-consciously bombastic, I'd say Ravel's la Valse (2 piano arrangement.) Further back, maybe rach c# minor prelude.

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Re: What's the most 'bombastic' piece you play? #409524
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Just for fun:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bombastic

Kinda strong language...based on that I don't think anything I've played qualifies. I'd like to find something that does hehe. rach's c#minor prelude is a great example. I'd like to hear more responses. The only time I've ever heard the word bombastic was in some description of some of Liszt's music.

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That's great one! Now, you're making me want to get the rustiness off "Souvenir de Puerto Rico". Gottschalk was akin to a Latino Liszt. Great Stuff.

How about Grainger's "In Dahomey" aka "Cakewalk Smasher" That's my entry.

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Hmmm... probably the Prokofiev 7th sonata's 3rd movement.


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Re: What's the most 'bombastic' piece you play? #409527
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Re: What's the most 'bombastic' piece you play? #409528
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ironically "bombasticness" is everything I've learned real music *shouldn't* be about! I regret ever having learned that Rachmaninov myself as now I realize it is pretty much an empty showpiece...

if i had to pick a work i am playing, i would say the Beethoven Appassionata, but then, it is actually filled with so much genuine content that i guess it doesn't qualify to the term "bombastic".

Re: What's the most 'bombastic' piece you play? #409529
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How about Grainger's "In Dahomey" aka "Cakewalk Smasher"
Good on ya. I wouldn't have thought of that. Grainger's English Waltz isn't far behind.

My candidate: Liszt's Orage from "Années de Pèlerinage". I admire Liszt very, very much, yet I've never heard any pianist make bloody sense out of it. Utterly tawdry.


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Hmmm... probably the Prokofiev 7th sonata's 3rd movement.
Hmmm... yes and no. Depends, especially when it's played like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh-Li6cXuV0


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Re: What's the most 'bombastic' piece you play? #409532
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Hmmm... probably the Prokofiev 7th sonata's 3rd movement.
Hmmm... yes and no. Depends, especially when it's played like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh-Li6cXuV0
Yes, I love that video =D

I have to perform this at a competition in Janurary for potentially a scholarship. I am almost getting it to Argerich's speed, although I don't quite have the same control =(


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Re: What's the most 'bombastic' piece you play? #409533
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Chopin etude op.10.9 obviously, which is bombastic and intense and like crying aloud. it's perhaps the only piece i actually did pounding on keys at some spots. it also sounds impressive too when playing for others...

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Shostakovich Prelude Op. 34 No. 9


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Re: What's the most 'bombastic' piece you play? #409535
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I haven't heard a much more "bombastic" piece than Balakirev's Islamey: much sound and fury but no music.

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I haven't heard a much more "bombastic" piece than Balakirev's Islamey: much sound and fury but no music.

Hey Bruce! I must politely -but firmly- disagree with you; I simply do not understand what you are talking about. Is there an axe to grind somewhere? I am relatively new to this board, but I have always found your posts to be of especial interest: you truly have something valuable to contribute here. But Islamey? No way.

Did the fact that Balakirev set out to compose the hardest piece after Liszt (then Ravel trying to trump it) turn you off? Try the Shostakovich 11th or 12th symphonies for sound and fury without any music in the slightest.

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Re: What's the most 'bombastic' piece you play? #409537
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I haven't heard a much more "bombastic" piece than Balakirev's Islamey: much sound and fury but no music.

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I must also disagree. I rather like the piece.

But then, the terms "bombastic" and "hackneyed" when applied to art, do not apply resolutely or absolutely. Such is the realm of opinion. smile


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Re: What's the most 'bombastic' piece you play? #409538
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Mazeppa, I suppose. It's a bit sad really but I can't seem to enjoy it as I used to. I do play it every so often for nostalgic reasons and as an exercise but it now seems very plain musically. I must have changed in five years because I remember once posting on this forum about how good I thought it was. Getting old perhaps ?


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bombastic doesn't mean you are not allowed to like the piece. There must exist bombastic pieces because if someone didn't write them where would you turn when you wanted to hear something bombastic??
Afterall the discussion began with one of the most wildly popular piano pieces being described as bombastic =P

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After all the discussion began with one of the most wildly popular piano pieces being described as bombastic.
And would that Rachmaninov had made some money on it...


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Probably have to go with the Rach C # minor as well.


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I haven't heard a much more "bombastic" piece than Balakirev's Islamey: much sound and fury but no music.

Hey Bruce! I must politely -but firmly- disagree with you; I simply do not understand what you are talking about. Is there an axe to grind somewhere? I am relatively new to this board, but I have always found your posts to be of especial interest: you truly have something valuable to contribute here. But Islamey? No way.

Why would you think I might have "an axe to grind"? With whom? Over what? What I said is simply a personal opinion. I simply cannot find anything "musical" in Islamay. To me, it is as I stated above: an extremely difficult piece - if not the most difficult in the piano repertoire - that is (to my sensitive ears) nothing but sound and fury, banging and bashing, with no musical interest. That would, without putting to fine a point on it, or trying to refine the definition a little more eloquently, qualify for a piece of bombast. I am not asking that all or anyone agree with me; I'm just stating my opinion.

Others have voiced a similar opinion about the Rachmaninoff C# minor Prelude, and I didn't notice that you were accusing them of "grinding an axe"!

I respect your right to disagree about the musical content - or lack thereof - in Islamey, but I don't think that I have any "axe to grind" with anyone. If you enjoy it, then that's your pleasure. It's certainly not mine.

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Would Prokofiev's Romeo and Juliet - Montagues and Capulets qualify for the definition of bombastic ?

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Some of Schumann's piano music tends IMO towards the bombastic (parts of Faschingsschwank, certain Novelettes, etc). Doesn't mean it's not great music though smile .

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I thought bombastic means loud .. i didn't know that you guys meant it to be loud + low-standard music frown

I like the Rachmaninoff prelude (not like i used to in the past) but i certainly think that it is a fine piece of music, and i still play it to this day

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i didn't know that you guys meant it to be loud + low-standard music [Frown]
Nor did I. I took it to mean a composition each of us plays that's perhaps more con brio or con fuoco and/or very rythymic(sp?) and virtuosic in content and fun to play( once mastered) & listen to.

Here's another fun one: Sousa-Horowitz (you guessed it!),
Stars & Stripes Forever.

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If you enjoy it, then that's your pleasure. It's certainly not mine.
Well okay, then. Funnily, I have never thought of the C# minor Prelude as being "bombastic" and confess to being rather surprised that it has been mentioned so often in this thread. In fact, I find little in all of Rachmaninov that is bombastic, at least in how I view the word. But perhaps the 6th of the Moments musicaux comes close. Slim musical pickings indeed...


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Here's another fun one: Sousa-Horowitz (you guessed it!),
Stars & Stripes Forever.
"Fun" is an understatement. Jaw-dropping might be more appropriate. wow


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In response to Shosti, I agree about Ravel's La Valse for two pianos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwVDbXUmv-M

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