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Concert Etude Recital #406453
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The idea was proposed in the Adult beginner's forum's Proposed Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim list thread that the Pianist Corner organises a 'Concert Etude Recital'. This thread is just to propose the idea to everyone and organise dates, pieces, ect...
The date for the e-cital as been chosen as July 31st, liszt's death date, as he contributed most to the style and YD has kindly offered to host a website for the e-cital. Just so everyone is clear, i think it is probably best to only do pieces with etude in its title, but if there are more people that would prefer it the other way we can change it.

below is a list of pieces taken

Phlebas - Liszt Chasse-Neige
YD – Scriabin Op.8 No.12
William penafield - Scriabin- Etude in C sharp minor op. 2
Whippen boy - Liszt's Transcendental Etude No. 3, "Paysage
Lisztaddict - Paganini/Liszt A-minor (theme and variations) Etude No 6
Goldberg - Alkan's Symphony for Solo Piano (you may have to change this goldberg)
Xtraheat - Dohnanyi's Concert Etude in B flat minor
Sotto voce - Henselt's Op. 2 No. 6 ("Si oiseau j'étais").
Rogerw - Szymanowski's op.33
Playadom - Transcendental Etude #8 in C minor - "Wilde Jagd"
Chopin952 - Liszt Transcendental No. 5 - Feux Follets
Kreisler - three Rachmaninoff etudes, Op. 33 #4 and 6 (d minor and Eb Major), and Op. 39#1 (c minor).
Beethoven fan –
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Theowne - Pour les arpeges composes
Fleeting visions – scribian 8/12bis
markH - Transcendental Etude #4 Mazeppa
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Re: Concert Etude Recital #406454
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Great idea - if it's far enough out ( a few months), I'll take Liszt Chasse-Neige.

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I'm in. Probably with Rachmaninoff Op. 39/1 or maybe some Scriabin.


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thanks phelbas and kreisler


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Re: Concert Etude Recital #406457
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What date is being thought of? How will this recital be planned though? We for sure cannot all meet at one place , right?

Youtube, maybe?

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i was thinking that we do something simalar to the chopin etude e-cital, meaning that you record your piece send it to whoever is going to be setting up the website or whatever (i'll have to PM the people to organised the chopin etude e-cital to get details on this) and then we can listen to everyones pieces....

the date would definatly have to be at least 3 months away so that everyone can get their pieces ready


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^ not bad .. I am however horribly critical of my playing. I do hope to see everyone else's performances.. I would be most delighted to see everyone's accomplishments =)

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it should be great fun, we just need more people to join in laugh


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If you want a big participation with the concert etudes you might give it a longer time - we organized the Chopin etude one a year ago! People learned them from scratch. Right now we're in the process of getting a nocturne ecital together for Chopin's next "Death Day", October 17, 2009.


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does anyone have an idea for a date?


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Well, I mostly lurk in the Adult Beginner Forum (I am not a beginner, really, but had a 12-year gap due to hand injury, and just coming back). So, if other participants are willing to take a risk of me performing not quite up to their (high) standards, I'd play Scriabin's 8/12 for it. I will need several months to learn it though.


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Re: date: How'bout Liszt's death date, July 31st?
As far as concert etudes go, I believe, Liszt's contribution to the style is the greatest, so I think it would be appropriate to commemorate him in such a way... And the date is sufficiently far away to allow for great participation.


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BTW, I can host a website for the e-cital.


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that would be great YD, the date sounds like a good ideas also


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Sounds like a good idea to me! If this takes place, I'll figure out something to post. Probably Szymanowski or Dohnanyi... or perhaps Some Scriabin or Rachmaninov... or why not Chaminade... there's so many great etudes out there that it's hard to choose!

Btw. Should Chopin be left out of this as his etudes were just done in the ABF?

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If I have a few weeks, I'll take Alkan's Op. 39 No. 4, the first movement of the Symphony for Solo Piano. I might have some trouble recording it, though, so we'll have to see.

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Seems to be some real interest, so I'll sticky it...


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I don't think Chopin etudes should be excluded - the fact that they were featured in ABF is irrelevant IMHO.


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i agree with YD, chopin etudes should be still allowed.


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I'll contribute a slow but beautiful etude..

Scriabin- Etude in C sharp minor op. 2

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can we play more than 1 piece?

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sure


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Hi All, am new here but would contribute a Chopin Etude or two if they are included in the program.

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As the whole E-cital concept is new and unknown to the Pianist Corner, perhaps the first post in this thread should be edited to include more specific details about the event. What? When? How? Where? Why?

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In that case, and if we really will have a few months, I'll submit all of Alkan's Symphony for Solo Piano. By then I should have a pretty good live recital recording of it.

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I'll do Liszt's Transcendental Etude No. 3, "Paysage".

Does the piece absolutely have to be learned 'from scratch'? If so, scratch my Liszt off your list. wink

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If it's July 31, 2009 or later, I think I can do Paganini/Liszt A-minor (theme and variations) Etude No 6.

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I'd love to join you guys/gals. I'm still trying to decide what to select.

As an enticing method. Perhaps we could post a list of what is considered a Concert Etude. Maybe some of the readers will see an etude they have studied but are intimidated by the "Concert" nomenclature.

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A concert etude is any etude meant for performance. Examples include etudes by Chopin, Rachmaninoff, Scriabin, Stravinsky, Prokofiev, Lyapunov, Bartok, Prokofiev, etc...

Things that wouldn't be acceptable are things like Hanon exercises, Brahms exercises, etc...

It may also be helpful to define etude as what it's not. It's not a sonata, suite, dance, or character piece.

Some variation sets (Brahms' Paganini and Beethoven c minor for example) are occasionally cited as being etude-like, so those may be fair game as well.

Since this is our project, we can of course define its scope any way we wish. I'd personally like to stick with things that contain "etude" in the title.


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