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I am looking for an edition of the etudes that has fingering proposals (beyond those from Liszt himself). I only have a Henle Urtext edition. Any suggestions?

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I play the Transcendental Etudes from the Edition Peters with fingering of Emil von Sauer. This is quite helpful because the editor was a pupil of Franz Liszt.

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[edit] In the fourth etude, [/edit]By the way, not to intrude, but what judgement does it pass on the fingering for the chromatic thirds in the first and second versions of the theme?
Cortot's Edition says to adhere, Henle just says 2 4 because it just says what the composer said, perhaps they didn't want to say anything. Schirmer said to facilitate, and Berezovsky and pavrilov both facilitate, and Busoni says to use 2 4.

What does Peters say?


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dnephi, this is a general TE discussion, but I'm going to assume your question is about No. 4 (Mazeppa). I just started learning this one, myself, and I expect it to take a while.

<opinion mode="on"> Call me a purist, but I'm pretty sure Liszt used 4-2 2-4 fingering and intended it to be played that way by others. That fingering gives it a certain character that you can't fully reproduce any other way. You can try to cut corners with another fingering, and probably play it faster in the long run, but you will lose that "I'm tied to a horse and I'm gonna die" feeling of panic and anger as you attempt to play it. It's kind of like going to a Chinese restaurant and they only bring you chopsticks. You could ask for a fork, but you'd be missing out on part of the experience. Actually, now that I think about it, this fingering is sort of like playing "Chopsticks", isn't it? </opinion>

I'm not criticising anyone who uses an alternate fingering. Pianists much better than myself have done so, and probably had some very intelligent and valid reasons. I'd be curious to hear other opinions (I know it's been discussed in other threads, too).

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You can try to cut corners with another fingering, and probably play it faster in the long run, but you will lose that "I'm tied to a horse and I'm gonna die" feeling of panic and anger as you attempt to play it. It's kind of like going to a Chinese restaurant and they only bring you chopsticks. You could ask for a fork, but you'd be missing out on part of the experience.
lol, great analogies Mark. I agree that the 2-4,2-4 fingering produces a slightly disconnected sound that is, IMO, harder to reproduce with 2-4,3-1. If that's what Liszt intended, I'd say play it the way its written.


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