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#405292 - 11/19/02 05:09 PM Re: Hauntingly chilling pieces  
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If I may ask a basic question, why are the pieces you're mentioning scary? How do they scare you? Do they scare everyone? I am guesiign they do since human nature is common, and chords or notes have the same psychological effect (joy, sadness) on people. Or is it the unexpected nature of the progression of the piece that is so terrifying? If not, then what is it?


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#405293 - 11/19/02 05:12 PM Re: Hauntingly chilling pieces  
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I was thinking to myself and seem to have found a clue to my question of why some pieces scare us. I think it the nature of the chords or nootes combined with an unsettling tempo, like the ones they use in horror movies. If you would like to add, go ahead.


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#405294 - 11/19/02 05:15 PM Re: Hauntingly chilling pieces  
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Beethove's Appassionata scares me. It bursts into suddern loadness at several unexpected (to a new listener especially) moments.


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#405295 - 11/19/02 05:47 PM Re: Hauntingly chilling pieces  
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I find the chord changes e.g. D minor - Bb minor - F# minor, essentially a change of minor harmony four semitones apart, have a very haunting effect on me. Put it this way, if I were to write the equivalent of a ghost story in piano music I would use these changes. These chords also lie on the notes of the bare augmented harmony, which I also find sometimes (though not always) chilling. What a splendidly ominous effect it has in Liszt's Funeral Gondolas.


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#405296 - 11/21/02 05:54 PM Re: Hauntingly chilling pieces  
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Prokofiev Piano Concerto #2 -- The end of the first movement, when the orchestra finally returns and pretty much murders the pianist.

#405297 - 11/21/02 07:43 PM Re: Hauntingly chilling pieces  
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Yes! I so much agree! Every time I hear that part I get massive goosebumps. That part is so awesome.

Rachmaninoff's Etude No. 6, op. 39. If you know it is a little red riding hood and the wolf, you can hear er terror, her heart fluttering in the piece. It really is quite frightening, if you think of it from her perspective..


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#405298 - 11/21/02 08:07 PM Re: Hauntingly chilling pieces  
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Also, "Threnody for the victims of Hiroshima".

This is honestly the most terrifying, Heart-pounding, frightening piece of music I have heard. My professor played it for class...by the end half of the class were crying out of fear, one girl had to leave the room, and I thought i was honestly going to have a panic attack. It is the most intense music I have ever heard...ecspecially one part, when the violins make it sound like someone shouting "NO! NO!" and it sounds like planes overhead, and sirens,and people shreiking, and your ears are ringing, and things falling...oh god, i cant even begin to describe it.


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#405299 - 08/16/06 08:55 PM Re: Hauntingly chilling pieces  
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I think that the first movement of Rachmaninoff's Second (Concerto) is pretty haunting, especially the last few minutes, where the music is wandering in a way. Haunting but gorgeous! I'd expect that kind of thing, since it was a piece composed after he was lifted from his depression. frown

#405300 - 08/17/06 02:13 AM Re: Hauntingly chilling pieces  
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Allegri's Miserere. Sung by a chamber choir in candlelight in a 13th century chapel in perfect* harmony. Followed by Faure's requiem with an ancient organ and the strings in the antechapel.


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#405301 - 08/17/06 11:50 AM Re: Hauntingly chilling pieces  
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Lets see...some organ works,
1.Bach's "Fantasia in c minor BWV 562"

2. Bach's Prelude and fugue in f minor BWV 534

3. Arr. Reinhart "I want Jesus to walk with me".

I play "I want Jesus to Walk with Me" and it still gives me the chills when the trumpets on the organ bellow out the melody in sanctuary.

As for piano I have to say Ravel's Le Gibet and rachmaninoff's prelude in c sharp minor and prelude in g sharp minor.


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#405302 - 08/17/06 03:47 PM Re: Hauntingly chilling pieces  
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i wondered what you were going contribute laugh


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#405304 - 08/17/06 04:03 PM Re: Hauntingly chilling pieces  
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i wondered what you were going contribute laugh
Seriously, William seems to think Chopin's scherzo no 1 is pretty scary. The first few bars (after the big chords) do remind me of evil little clawed creatures scambling to hide themselves in the leaves.


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I love how these old threads mysteriously revive themselves from time to time.

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Rachmaninoff's " Isle of the Dead." It never fails to send shivers up and down my spine. I understand it is based on the Dore painting.
One can hear the piercing howls of the dead souls as they are being rowed across the river Styx toward Hades. Magnificent work---but not for the faint of heart. Gaby Tu

#405307 - 08/18/06 06:10 AM Re: Hauntingly chilling pieces  
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Gyorgi Ligeti was comissioned to write some very evocative choral music for the film 2001 a space Oddysey. These compositions for orchestra including chorus are chilling enough for me and anyone else. Listening to this music is like being transported through space in all it's awe, dread and loneliness. The incorporation of the music in the film was masterful and never to be outdone for eery effect.


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#405308 - 08/18/06 11:08 AM Re: Hauntingly chilling pieces  
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Gyorgi Ligeti was comissioned to write some very evocative choral music for the film 2001 a space Oddysey.
No, he wasn't, these were originally (and are still) concert works. Kubrick just used them (and without permission, too).


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#405309 - 08/18/06 11:51 AM Re: Hauntingly chilling pieces  
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The Makrokosmos has been recorded several times. The recording I know is by (I believe) Paul Jacobs.

I have a recording by Robert Shannon, from the George Crumb edition vol. 8.


Oh and good point, because Kubrick got in a spot of trouble for doing that haha


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#405310 - 08/18/06 03:31 PM Re: Hauntingly chilling pieces  
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[b] Gyorgi Ligeti was comissioned to write some very evocative choral music for the film 2001 a space Oddysey.
No, he wasn't, these were originally (and are still) concert works. Kubrick just used them (and without permission, too). [/b]
Are you sure about that? Unless he somehow had previously acquired the rights to the music, that would be a law suit waiting to happen and a breach of what most any filmmaker know is basic law - don't use other's materials without first acquiring the right. BTW, Kubrick also used his music in Eyes Wide Shut and The Shining (two other hauntingly chilling movies).

#405311 - 08/19/06 11:03 AM Re: Hauntingly chilling pieces  
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Yes, I stand corrected. The music was not composed specifically for Mr Kubrick's film. Perhaps this may help explain if I may quote from Keyboard magazine:

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Ligeti is best known for his extremely beautiful and adventurous choral music, an excerpt of which was featured in the Stanley Kubrick film, 2001: A Space Odyssey. Interestingly, the composer was unaware of the inclusion of his Requiem in the film score until he saw the film in a theater. His use of vocal tone clusters pushed choral technique to the limit, and his awareness of the possibilities of the piano is similarly deep. “On top of Ligeti’s piano were piles of piano etudes, by everyone, from Czerny, Debussy, Chopin, and even Alkan, who was a huge influence on Ligeti,” says Lin. “For a composer to be so familiar with all the literature and still able to compose things that haven’t been done before is amazing to me. It shows that his curiosity is enormous. He expanded into all kinds of styles and techniques, and he found something of his own.”

I wonder if any one on the boards has actually studied the forementioned etudes and wether they may be obtained as scores. Where might one listen to performances. I should definitely be interested in this composer's piano works as he aimed to be representative of the piano tradition and yet was interested in the cosmic sciences.

I like that part about him going to the film and suddenly realising it was his music. Did Mr Kubrick get his wrist slapped over that one I wonder? Probably a reimbursed ticket was in order.


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#405312 - 08/20/06 11:27 PM Re: Hauntingly chilling pieces  
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Cowell's Banshee is particularly spooky if you are close to the piano. Fingernails along the windings of the bass strings are spine tingling or something like that.

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I'm surprised no one has mentioned "The Sunken Cathedral". I think it's scary.


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#1440502 - 05/20/10 06:21 PM Re: Hauntingly chilling pieces [Re: CrashTest]  
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most defenitely 'das Wirtshaus', Winterreise by Schubert, makes me want to run away and enjoy life for as long as it lasts...


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We were studying modern composers in music theory.

We listened to "threnody for the victims of Hiroshima"

That was hands down the most terrifying piece of music I have ever listened to!

You can literally hear the bomb sirens, and the explosion, and the screams of women and children... All through the orchestra. It doesn't get more eery than that.


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Ah yes for organ.

Dont leave out Bach's Passacaglia in C minor!


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Creepy:
Scriabin's 9th sonata, Vers la flamme
Liszt:transcendental etude 6 "vision" sometimes...


Sad:
Chopin's C minor nocturne op.48 no.1,
Rachmaninoff's 3rd musical moment
Scriabin's prelude op. 11 no.12


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#1440621 - 05/20/10 09:59 PM Re: Hauntingly chilling pieces [Re: Kuanpiano]  
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From the piano literature:
Liszt: Nuages gris; La lugubre gondole; Am Grabe R. Wagner
Schumann: Vogel als Prophet
and of course Le Gibet:

Richter, Ravel, Le Gibet

But if you're going for creepy you want the Lieder tradition:

Schubert: Der Zwerg (the all time winner)

Schumann: Die alten, bosen Lieder (I'm conflicted whether this is truly creepy or just extremely bitter)

Der arme Peter (genuinely creepy)

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Chopin Second Ballade! When the main theme comes back after the explosive Presto, and then just stops.. it's the most unnerving moment of complete mystery. It's easy to lose that by becoming too familiar with it..

Also the middle of Schubert's D. 959 slow movement, in which the music as we know it is suddenly completely abandoned..

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What about Chopin's 'Devil Trill' Prelude? Or Scriabin's Sonata #6?


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I find being haunted by long-dead threads full of posts from people I've never heard of to be very creepy.

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