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#3952 - 07/24/06 11:14 AM Yamaha Eterna piano, any advice/thoughts?  
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I'm on the search for a piano, looking new and used. I found someone who is selling at Yamaha Eterna piano that it about 10 yrs old for $2800 CAN - I tried to check the web about this piano and found that it seems like it is a Yamaha built piano but made in China??? Looking for people's advice on whether price is ok for one and whether or not to stay away or check it out. Thanks for your help.

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#3953 - 07/24/06 01:13 PM Re: Yamaha Eterna piano, any advice/thoughts?  
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Yamaha began making the Eterna about 10 years ago. They quickly determined that it was not of quality enough to import them to the US. They were, until recently, only sold in China.

I would pass on this one. For that kind of money you have a lot of better option, even a Thomaston-made Yamaha.


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#3954 - 07/24/06 03:05 PM Re: Yamaha Eterna piano, any advice/thoughts?  
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Yamaha began making the Eterna about 10 years ago. They quickly determined that it was not of quality enough to import them to the US. They were, until recently, only sold in China.
They were actually sold here in the UK quite successfully and build quality beats any US or Canadian spinet built between 1969 and 1985. It should be priced at around $1800CAN to make it anything like value for money though.

The C110A was a direct development of it, and was also a decent cheap piano.


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#3955 - 07/24/06 03:43 PM Re: Yamaha Eterna piano, any advice/thoughts?  
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Shauna,
The Eterna was a very low end piano sold by Yamaha.
For the price offered, $ 2800.00 (sold for about 2400.00 new in Vancouver at the time)it is far too high a price for the options that are out there today.
I would put the re-sale about 15-1800.00 Cad $
It was a so-so piano in that price reange at the time.
About Korean quality.

Steve,
Eternas were sold in Canada also.
Name was dropped in Canada and called C108 here under the Yamaha name for better acceptance after a few years.

Shauna,
Keep shopping.

Frank Woodside
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#3956 - 07/24/06 04:00 PM Re: Yamaha Eterna piano, any advice/thoughts?  
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Name was dropped in Canada and called C108 here under the Yamaha name for better acceptance after a few years.

Are you absolutely sure?

In the UK, the C108 was a Japanese built piano which ran alongside the cheaper Eterna range as the entry-level Yamaha branded instrument. Both were dropped with the advent of the C110-A which was Chinese. as I recall, you could pretty much choose between a smart black polyester Eterna with 3 pedals or a really basic looking 2-pedal C108 in a simulated wood finish for the same money.


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#3957 - 07/24/06 04:24 PM Re: Yamaha Eterna piano, any advice/thoughts?  
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Colin,
You may be right. I think you are.
We did have Eternas here, at a very low price, and after a few years dropped and only under the Yamaha name.
108 and 110 were both available at the time.
108 may have been Japanese (the more I think about it they were at 2 different prices)and sold a little over 3,000 Cad.
Makes more sense, but doesn't change the true re-sale under the Eterna name and build.
On this issue, I am glad you keep me on my toes.
Good luck Shauna,
The Samick produts are certainly worth considering. (darn competitors,but...) as I know them both well and eitherwill give you years of musical enjoyment. Which is really what we all want.

Frank Woodside
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#3958 - 07/24/06 04:43 PM Re: Yamaha Eterna piano, any advice/thoughts?  
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Colin,
You may be right. I think you are.
We did have Eternas here, at a very low price, and after a few years dropped and only under the Yamaha name.
Frank!

Same happened here. The C108 was introduced around 1988 as a cheaper alternative to the well-made M108. They ran concurrently for a few years then the M was dropped and the cheaper C remained to be joined by the Eterna about 10 years ago. The Eterna was Yamaha's first venture with Pearl River and had a "Made by Yamaha" sticker on the keyslip..... Although strictly speaking it should really have read "Made by Pearl River with Yamaha supplying some of the bits" As I recall there was a genuine Yamaha action fitted but with a cheapened hammer rest rail and very low rent hammers.


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#3959 - 07/24/06 05:18 PM Re: Yamaha Eterna piano, any advice/thoughts?  
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G.Colin,
Absolutely correct.
I wrote before I thought through.
Seems the UK shares many pianos/marketing with us.
Regions,Freight,duties,distribution method, ( dealer situation) all play a role in in what models at what price are available.
Shauna,
A piano is something you listen to and feel.
Buy what is comfortable, for you, and make music.
Many years in the piano business showed me that.
(Buy mine,buy mine,buy mine,....oops, no hyping)
After a great meal, does it really matter whether you like your steak rare and your friend prefers well-done. Or you paid $12.95 and they paid $10.95
Thanks G.Colin for the clarification.

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#3960 - 07/24/06 05:26 PM Re: Yamaha Eterna piano, any advice/thoughts?  
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G.Colin,
Absolutely correct.
I wrote before I thought through.
Seems the UK shares many pianos/marketing with us.
I think so. Did you ever get any English pianos in Canada? Knight, Welmar, Bentley etc? I've only ever come across old Heintzmans here, but beautifully built with that cast-in agraffe system.


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#3961 - 07/24/06 05:40 PM Re: Yamaha Eterna piano, any advice/thoughts?  
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Sorry,
Don't know how to do the "Quotes"

But yes, I do know knight and very nice.
Welmar and Bentley, names I know but no personal experience.
English pianos were never really marketed here except the old fancy cabinet "Birdcages" that we all love so much from the turn of the century.
Antiques you know, Worth a fortune. (can you take a container off my hands?)that came in over the years.
I will say though, the knight Pianop I would have liked to represent.
We also like our Heintzmans here.

Frank Woodside
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#3962 - 07/25/06 12:38 AM Re: Yamaha Eterna piano, any advice/thoughts?  
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Thanks everyone, I think I'll let this one sail on by. I appreciate your advice/thoughts! Who knew that trying to purchase a piano seems to be more difficult/stressful than purchasing a car - or maybe its b/c I know what I want in a car but in a long term investment such as a piano there is so much more to think about.
Cheers!

#1629722 - 02/28/11 05:44 AM Re: Yamaha Eterna piano, any advice/thoughts? [Re: Shauna]  
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I did a small dig up to this topic just to satisfy my curiosity.

Does anyone knows if there is any other difference between the Yamaha M108 and the M108CP beside their appearance?

Thanks..

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