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Hello everyone! I was wondering if anyone here has any knowledge of Liszt's 12th Hungarian rhapsody?? I'll be starting it soon and just wanted any advice I could get regarding the process of learning. Thanks a million in advance.


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The usual - slow, patient practice will pay big dividends - especially in the fast part. Great piece, I worked this one up to maybe 75% back when I was in college before getting sidetracked on some other stuff - but I would love to go back and polish this one up.


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my teacher plays it, and he showed me little bit the hardest part of it: RH fast trills with melody line, which he thought is the only difficult part of this piece.

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Whoops, when I read your post at first I thought you were talking about 13. I've never played 12, but the same advice holds - be patient and learn it slowly - the speed will come.


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Yeh I really don't understand how to play those trills with the melody at the same time. I guess I'll have to go extremely slow especially on that section.


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Start off by playing the trill strictly in time, and slowly if you want (I guess it would be in quavers while the melody is in crotchets), and that would suffice normally. Eventually you will be able to separate the trill from the melody and play it however fast you want. And I do the trill with 2-3 and play all the melody with the thumb - it's lazy, but I don't see the point in making the trill harder...


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