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What prokofiev piece is it when...? #374882
12/28/04 10:57 AM
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The one were if you have large hands you can use one finger to play two keys, and you do this with all five fingers and roll back and forth. Whereas if you have smaller hands you just gliss it back and forth...

Anyways...lol...im sure ive confused anyone who's reading this, but if you've played the piece (i think its a sonata) you might know what Im talking about. If Im talking nonsense just tell me shutup and Ill leave this thread alone..

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Re: What prokofiev piece is it when...? #374883
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3rd piano concerto, 3rd movement. It's in the back half.
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Re: What prokofiev piece is it when...? #374884
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Thank you!

Re: What prokofiev piece is it when...? #374885
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Have you heard the Martha Argerich recording of that piece? Every time I hear that parcticular section with those weird glissando seconds, I shake my head and go "oh my god....". I remember actually trying them on my own...it took me FOREVER to figure out how one would play them.


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Re: What prokofiev piece is it when...? #374886
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I have three recordings of it: Argerich, Graffman and Prokofiev. Incidentally, Prokofiev's recording is AWFUL. smile
The Graffman is my favorite. The glissandi are more of a novelty than anything else. I've seen it played several different ways, and while I've often had problems with how some people play the piece in general, I don't ever remember having a problem with the way anyone played those glissandi. smile

Re: What prokofiev piece is it when...? #374887
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I think Prokofiev's recording is just as good as Argerich's


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Re: What prokofiev piece is it when...? #374888
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Any tie breaking votes here?

Re: What prokofiev piece is it when...? #374889
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Prokofiev's (on Naxos) is not really useful as a reference. He rushes trough it like a madman. You can hear that the strings have trouble keeping up.

Re: What prokofiev piece is it when...? #374890
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There are places where he practically drops out.
There's also a spot in the second movement where he simply slows down for about eight bars, then speeds right back up simply because no one could have played those eight bars at the speed he was going. smile

Re: What prokofiev piece is it when...? #374891
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I doubt Prokofiev could win a major competition today with the performance he recorded of his own piece.

BTW...an interesting bit of trivia - the conductor on that recording (Pierro Coppola) was the grandfather of the famous film producer and director Francis Ford Coppola. (He directed The Godfather, Cotton Club, Bram Stoker's Dracula, etc...)


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I honestly think that Michel Berrof plays the best Prokofiev's Third third movement, he plays the end sooooooooo fast, I feel like I'm about to scream.

Re: What prokofiev piece is it when...? #374893
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I have Ashkenazy playing all 5 concertos and they are all excellent, but then I don't have anything to compare it with as I don't think I've ever heard any other performances...


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