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has anyone played this piece?
what level would you say you would have to be able to play it?

I have, as have many other people on this forum.

I don't really know how hard it would be.

It is one of the selection you can play for ARCT according to the RCM syllabus.

Visit this website, hope it helps http://www.rcmexaminations.org/

under tab: 'Academic Information' left link: Syllabi

I looked for this following your link and directions, but all I can find are the 'errata' to the 2001 Piano Syllabus, and I don't see the Op 10 No 12 listed in the errata for the ARCT examination.
Performer's ARCT 78 List C: Brahms "Capriccio in B sharp minor, op. 76, no. 5" should be "Capriccio in B minor, op. 76, no. 5"
Performer's ARCT 79 List D: Fauré "Impromptu no. 6 in D flat major, op. 63" should be "Nocturne no. 6 in D flat major, op. 63"
Performer's ARCT 80 List E: DELETE Prelude no. 12 in 24 Preludes, op. 38 (Kabalevsky) (correctly listed for Grade 9, List D, page 66)


In the original RCM Piano Syllabus all the Chopin Etudes of Op 10 and all the Etudes of Op 25 except No 2 are possible examination pieces under the category "Concert Etudes".

Regards,

This is one of chopin's easiest etudes.

Maybe some of the easiest .. but it needs a pretty solid left hand technique .. watch out!!

Do not overpedal .. practice slowly.

it's one of the easier ones but requires a lot of technical work for the L.H

I always felt that the right hand part was more difficult than the left hand part in this etude. Maybe I just have tremendous left hand technique :p ...or major difficulty phrasing large chords.

True I tried the couple of first runs.

The right hand (at least for me) was very uncomfortable. Wierd chords. Hard to hit on time

It's straightforward but it takes a lot of practice. If you don't have a good left to start with you will before it's over. Pay a great deal of attention to evenness and dynamics.

Learn it slowly, with even rhythms and legato. You'll get a lot more from the etude that way.

Revolutionary Etude right?

from what I know, don't pedal at all.

I was going to comment on that as well; someone warned not to overpedal, I had gathered the pedal wasn't to be used in it at any point(?).

That is the reason i am thinkinh of playing it, my left hand needs to strengthen

Paderewski Edition doesn't have any pedal marks at all in it and I think it sounds fine without it.

every version I've seen is marked Legatissimo.

Bruce,

I wrote only to help ZP3929 with some information and others which are available in that RCM website - because the question itself was quite open-ended, i.e .. what level ... : and because I read his/her other threads.

... were not aware you were that interested ...


In Piano Syllabus Sep 2001 printing it stated that anyone of Chopin Op 10 (including No 12) is an eligible selection for ARCT level'.

Btw ... nice recording of Schubert on your Estonia.

akuyek :

That was similar to the point that I was trying to make: that in the latest printing (2001) of the Piano Syllabus, any one of the Op 10 Etudes is possible for the ARCT examination. Given the varying levels of difficulty among the Etudes, the inclusion of all at the ARCT level acknowledges that all of them require a minimal level of technical proficiency. Some, as we know, are much more difficult than others. I would say that the Opus 10 No 12 is not as difficult as some others of the same Opus.

Thank you for the comment on the Schubert.

Regards,