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#359807 - 07/09/02 06:46 PM Question about Rachmaninoff Prelude C# minor  
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Why does the last page of the Prelude have two Treble Clefs and two Bass Clefs? Is it meant for two pianists' to play like a duet? Was the piece written exclusively as a solo piano piece?

Thank you for your time!

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#359808 - 07/09/02 07:06 PM Re: Question about Rachmaninoff Prelude C# minor  
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The reason for the double staves is that both hands are playing over many octaves: if you look at the actual notation you'll see that there are some pretty vast leaps to make in each hand as the chords progress. It is possible to play, but you must bear in mind that each hand is now playing over two staves.

I know of a piano duet version, but the original is best: and it is, of course, much harder.

Anyway: happy playing.

Nath

#359809 - 07/09/02 07:51 PM Re: Question about Rachmaninoff Prelude C# minor  
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Just think of the bottom staff as the left hand and the top is the right, play them together...
Btw it sounds really cool!

#359810 - 07/10/02 07:02 AM Re: Question about Rachmaninoff Prelude C# minor  
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Donna,
Oh i've always wondered about that strange stave arrangement in this beautiful prelude...so thank-you guys... for your helpful posts!

Take care all!


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#359811 - 07/10/02 11:44 AM Re: Question about Rachmaninoff Prelude C# minor  
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Hi Donna!

I noticed when I see 2 clefs and 2 basses, I see that it isn't really a duet music! Perhaps Rachmaninoff wrote that part in order to challenge you! laugh wink
When I look at the half-note in both clefs and three eighth notes, then my hands should jump fast! In otherwords, you don't need a partner to play that part with you since Rachmaninoff played it this way! smile wink

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#359812 - 07/10/02 08:38 PM Re: Question about Rachmaninoff Prelude C# minor  
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There s that one part though near the end where you 'd actually need 3 hands to play it.
I listen to a recording and they play two left hand chords one after the other whereas on the score, they should be played together which of course is impossible unless you have three hands.
Can anyone clear up this point?


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#359813 - 07/10/02 09:10 PM Re: Question about Rachmaninoff Prelude C# minor  
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Play the lower chords, then jump. It'll sound like grace notes.


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#359814 - 07/12/02 02:37 PM Re: Question about Rachmaninoff Prelude C# minor  
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Yeah, basically you're supposed to play both bass clefs and both treble clefs at once. It's two-hands only, but the chords are so fat and have so many notes that they don't all fit onto two staves.

Good luck. wink


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