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Re: Tremolo (Pathetique) #350837
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I play it as a glissandi. You overlooked the fact that it is played in legato and at prestissimo tempo therefore you have no time to lift your hand off the piano.

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Re: Tremolo (Pathetique) #350838
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Where exactly in the 3rd mvt. is this 30 measure stretta?

Is it when the B section returns, but instead of being interrupted continues with lots of arpeggios?


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Originally posted by JBiegel:
In addition to my suggestion just a few posts above, I often instruct my students to simply practice a passage in another register of the instrument. In the case of the tremolo in the LH, which I believe is the thread, you might try it one octave lower since the strings are longer and it is more difficult to play it lower. Then, return to the register as written--it might seem a bit easier.
I do this also. If I'm practicing a passage that is written in an extreme of the keyboard, I usually just bring it up to mid-register. Keeping your arm in an extended position for a while tires it out easier than having it closer to the torso.

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True, Brendan. It also makes one play and hear the over-practiced passage in a different timbre of sound when taking it to another octave or section of the instrument. Here's something else I do with my students: When I feel they don't hear anything but the melody, I make them cross hands and play the given passage so they can hear what the left hand is doing--it amazes them that the LH has a shape and melodic line in addition to the RH, that often gets overlooked by concentrating on the RH melody. It helps provide support of the material around the main themes. One hears it all together, though the main theme still is brought out most.

Re: Tremolo (Pathetique) #350841
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Originally posted by playadom:
Where exactly in the 3rd mvt. is this 30 measure stretta?

Is it when the B section returns, but instead of being interrupted continues with lots of arpeggios?
To make it clear in case you didn't understand, the thirty measure stretta is in the "double hand run" part where the left hand and the right hand will be doing runs at the same time. It is before the prestissimo section.

Anyway, that suggestion with crossing the hands is brilliant! I tried it out and I realized that my left hand wasn't as developed as my right hand (Which is odd seing as I am left handed) so I noticed that me left hand needs to come out more. I realized a fault of mine with this one.

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