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#328116 - 12/13/04 09:45 PM Yamaha grand piano GB1 price  
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Hi,

What is the best price for GB1? I like to buy a 4'11'' grand piano and price under $8500 before New Year. Any advice would be greatly appreicated!

Thanks!

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#328117 - 12/14/04 03:51 AM Re: Yamaha grand piano GB1 price  
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Your requirements seem to be:
1. 4'11" grand piano
2. Under $8500

My question is, why are you looking at Yamahas? There are plenty of cheaper brands out there if those are your only needs, and you don't seem to be interested in the performance side of things too much.

I've found the GB1 to be a very good piano for it's size. The action can be very nice once it's set up properly, and the sound is quite good- for it's size. I'm sure others here can point you to other brands in this price or size range. Unfortunetly, in Australia, I don't get to see most of them, so I'll shuffle over to the side now...

Greg


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#328118 - 12/14/04 07:09 AM Re: Yamaha grand piano GB1 price  
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cps/Greg,

No need to shuffle yourself over to the side show -- you have experience with the GB1 and that's great, that's exactly what the poster asked about. There is a Yamaha dealer in my area (heck, there is a Yamaha dealer in every one's area), and I have yet to see a GB1. I doubt many of us here have actually played a GB1. So it's hard for us to comment on it. I guess this is a long winded way of saying your contribution is appreciated. thumb

I played the GA1 and thought that was quite nice for its size and price -- but I don't know how much of it one can reasonable extrapolate to the GB1.

#328119 - 12/14/04 10:01 AM Re: Yamaha grand piano GB1 price  
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I spoke with one place that needed permission to go below 8k for the GB1. Found another that quoted 7400.


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#328120 - 12/14/04 10:27 PM Re: Yamaha grand piano GB1 price  
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Thanks to all. You mean permission from Yamahas store owner? Can you tell me where is the place you get the quoted 7400? I realy need one before new year. There is Yamahas store in my area ( I live in Winston-Salem, NC) and owner offer me $8500 (get out of the door) for GB1. I don't feel that is the best price. What do you think? GB1 replace GA1 according the sale person. Thanks for help!

#328121 - 12/14/04 10:39 PM Re: Yamaha grand piano GB1 price  
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A dealer told me the GB1 replaced the GA1 and then mentioned something about a different soundboard between the two (don't know if he meant upgraded or made cheaper). His sticker price was $9500 if I remember correctly but I didn't ask what he'd come down to for a serious buyer.


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#328122 - 12/15/04 03:09 AM Re: Yamaha grand piano GB1 price  
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The biggest difference I've found between the GA1 and GB1 is the frame. The GA1 had a very light frame whereas the GB1 has a more solid frame. More along the lines of a C series piano. The chunkier frame gives the piano a more substantial sound, which is a good improvement. Of course with the new frame comes new scaling. I disagree with some aspects of the scaling, but overall I think it gives a more balanced tone over the GA1.

I've noticed on one GB1 I've seen that the soundboard looks like it's made out of someone's front door. The grain in some parts was appalling. I don't recall a GA1 with a soundboard like this, although I could easily have missed it I guess. So if there really is a difference in soundboards I'd be tempted to say it's now a lower grade (cheaper) timber.

I think the GB1 is definitely an improvement over the GA1, but I am still a bit dissappointed by it. I was expecting it to be a LOT better than the GA1, and it doesn't quite reach that level. I'm still waiting to see what happens over a bit of time. We may find they "come of age" better than the old model. They're still a bit green to be sure ATM.

As for price, the "I must screw down the cheapest price in the universe" discussion was done a little while back regarding a C3. I could try to dig up my thoughts on this debate if you want, but basically you get what you pay for. Don't expect the best service if you aren't prepared to pay for it.

Greg


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#328123 - 12/15/04 05:59 AM Re: Yamaha grand piano GB1 price  
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The permission for 8k came from his sales manager (and they never did give me a firm price since I wasn't ready to buy). Greg is right, however, the 8k place was giving a lot more for the money (15 year warranty, full-value upgrade to Steinway, 4 tunings instead of the 2 given by Yamaha, voicing after 1 year). I would be honest with the dealer and say, "I've got $x to spend, if you say 'yes', I'll buy it before year end. If you say 'no', I'll go somewhere else".

I don't live in NC, so store names wouldn't help you.


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#328124 - 12/16/04 10:58 AM Re: Yamaha grand piano GB1 price  
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I spoke with one place that needed permission to go below 8k for the GB1. Found another that quoted 7400.
It is strange, SNNAPEDSTRING never posted before. Now his first few posts are about quoting low prices.
Linda,SNAPPED STRING is just trying to prevent you from buying. You wonít make a decision anywhere, shopping this way.

NO offense, but be an intelligent civilized buyer and go back to your local dealer and negotiate in a reasonable manner.

You have to understand that whoever works and own that piano dealer, is there to make some profit.
This is a simple concept, easy to understand. Iím sure that whichever industry you belong to, somehow there is profit made to pay your salary or your family income. That by the way is good enough to buy a piano.

Believe me $8500 is not a bad price for that piano. To give you an idea this dealer is making enough money to pay probably the telephone bill and the piano mover.

#328125 - 12/16/04 12:03 PM Re: Yamaha grand piano GB1 price  
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Yes, I am new to all of this. I just started looking for a piano, and was surprised at how the dealers acted like car salesmen. I merely suggested a strategy that I have found to be successful with car salesmen. The quotes I received are real.


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#328126 - 12/16/04 01:44 PM Re: Yamaha grand piano GB1 price  
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Wow! your STRATEGY is saving you $900 in this case IF it is true. What a businessman you are! very impressive.

Grow up and get a life!

By the way, why don't you develop some strategy for you to get some basic understanding of fairness.

I'll tell you, the rewards will be bigger than the pocket change you think you are saving.


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