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Originally Posted by Pete14
Oh, you meant Martha (not Marths), silly me!

For a moment I wondered if Marths and Martha were related, but didn’t ask.

Now, I don’t know what drives Martha, and perhaps I overstepped by implying there might be something going on at home that compels her to go out on the road at the age of 81, but still I’d say Martha is the exception, not the norm.


I don’t agree with your assumption that she is the exception, but I really don’t want to do more homework right now.


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Not all concert pianists have the same idea of how much they want to perform. For example, Marths Argerich, at 81, has 81 concerts scheduled between July 5 and the end of the year.

BTW: Her net worth is estimated at 6.9 million $

No pleasures of sitting at home on a rainy day for her 😊 she obviously has enough saved for a lot of rainy days at home

I’m not familiar with Marths, but I speculate there might be something amiss at home that compels her to still go out there at 81.
So you haven't heard of one of the most famous pianists on the planet but you think you can speculate about why young(Trifonov) or old pianists choose to play the number of concerts they do? Many/most great pianists play concerts well into their 70s or even 80s if they are in good health.

Trifonov is probably already a millionaire many times over. He is among the most popular pianists on the planet for almost a decade. If he cut his playing schedule in half he would still make many millions each year just from concerts, and barring some serious adverse event has many decades of performing ahead of him.

There are certainly possible disadvantages from having a very heavy schedule(exhaustion, greater risk of injury, less time to compose or learn new repertoire, less time with family) but I assume he has thought about those carefully and weighed them against what he sees as the benefits of such a schedule. I think the chances that he chooses a heavy schedule for the reasons you mention are extremely small.

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I'd imagine people like Argerich and Trifonov just love the instrument and music so they'd just want to keep performing if they can? I can't really imagine it being about the money at their status. I do hope he doesn't push it too hard and cause a more permanent injury for himself though. eek

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Originally Posted by Nemaara
I'd imagine people like Argerich and Trifonov just love the instrument and music so they'd just want to keep performing if they can? I can't really imagine it being about the money at their status. I do hope he doesn't push it too hard and cause a more permanent injury for himself though. eek
Yes, I think that's correct.

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Conditions with recurrent symptoms are treacherous because by definition there are periods where the person feels no symptoms, leading them to believe that they are cured, only to have the symptoms come back later, sometimes more severe. In Daniil's case, just the passage of time could be enough for his current symptoms to go away, but for how long? Hopefully he will consult a physician and not resume his career hastefully.


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I'd imagine people like Argerich and Trifonov just love the instrument and music so they'd just want to keep performing if they can? I can't really imagine it being about the money at their status. I do hope he doesn't push it too hard and cause a more permanent injury for himself though. eek
Yes, I think that's correct.

What’s love got to do with it?

What’s love but a second-hand emotion?

No, it’s not love that drives Marths into the bright stage lights; it’s something deeper!

I’m certain that brain surgeons “love” the brain, but I ask you, how many 80-year-olds have you seen operating on the brain as of recent?

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I'd imagine people like Argerich and Trifonov just love the instrument and music so they'd just want to keep performing if they can? I can't really imagine it being about the money at their status. I do hope he doesn't push it too hard and cause a more permanent injury for himself though. eek
Yes, I think that's correct.

What’s love got to do with it?

What’s love but a second-hand emotion?

No, it’s not love that drives Marths into the bright stage lights; it’s something deeper!

I’m certain that brain surgeons “love” the brain, but I ask you, how many 80-year-olds have you seen operating on the brain as of recent?
If this is supposed to be funny, it's pretty feeble. If this is a serious post, it's off the wall. My best guess is you're just trolling.

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Originally Posted by Pete14
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I'd imagine people like Argerich and Trifonov just love the instrument and music so they'd just want to keep performing if they can? I can't really imagine it being about the money at their status. I do hope he doesn't push it too hard and cause a more permanent injury for himself though. eek
Yes, I think that's correct.

What’s love got to do with it?

What’s love but a second-hand emotion?

No, it’s not love that drives Marths into the bright stage lights; it’s something deeper!

I’m certain that brain surgeons “love” the brain, but I ask you, how many 80-year-olds have you seen operating on the brain as of recent?


Me thinks you need to leave your arm-chair psycho babble alone and go work on one of your novels. You can wax about deep motivation for about 150 pages there.


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Pre pandemic, Trifinov was the last live recital I heard in SoCal. Post pandemic, his was the first I saw live at Walt Disney Concert Hall in a performance of the Brahms Third Sonata.
During pandemic, there were no live recitals, so active concert artists either took a break or learned new repertoire. Coming out of pandemic there may have been a too quick return to the stage, which could have led to overuse or perhaps not enough stamina for a rigorouse concert schedule to make up for past engagements.
I think the post pandemic concert performances should be carefully regulated for concert artists, rushing back into the previous flow of things could lead to issues, not just physically but mentally exhausting too.
That said, Daniil probably loves to perform for his public and to share his musical insights. Hoping he has a full recovery.


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Trifonov must be recovered. He has recently been playing both Brahms concerti(not in the same concert).

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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
Trifonov must be recovered. He has recently been playing both Brahms concerti(not in the same concert).


His concert schedule on his home page is packed for the remainder of July


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