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Ron, thank you for the update and catching the bug.

I uploaded Build 53.

*** Fixes the issue with over pull in auto mode. Please update ***

Also, in the IH Graph, the background color turns orange when inharmonicity measurement is complete. Hope it catches your eye.

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I keep asking for more...

The graph mode measuring is working well, the color change works for me - comparing a similar kimball console from just a few weeks ago, the measuring is so much more consistent and linear. I did notice in the top octave that the app just doesn't seem to have enough time to get the iH right with auto note switching on. I can watch the little bar moving up or down in the right direction, but it just doesn't get there without clearing and remeasuring. So either give those a tiny bit more time, or just recommend manual note switching above a certain point?

What I would like to see is some indication of pitch while in the graph mode, once the ih is checked. Even a small dial, or even a narrow bar across the top with a line that would move left or right with pitch. No fine tuning, just a clear indication of pitch with a scale. I will find some notes farther off and if it is more than about 20 cents, give myself a chance to see if a remeasure changes anything.

I haven't had time to test the difference at the spinner between C6-C7 autofill or full measuring. With the improved meausuring, it might be best to take that out? - the straight line doesn't often match what the measuring would indicate.

Something strange happened on the second piano - I had pitch raised using another file and then started a clean file. Around A4 to the top, I enabled overpull because the pitch was around 5 cents and more flat going up. (No surprise there) When I returned to the break tuning down with overpull off, the overpull indicator bar seemed to be working in the background as I worked beck down to the notes I had not overpulled before? There was the same lag as the ghost bar filled when I got below A4... Enabled overpull, then I cleared all overpull values, turned it off and all was normal.

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Ron, thank you for the update.

I will try giving more time and check if that helps at upper treble.

You are right, now, C6-C7 auto fill can be removed.

If you measure A4 to F3 first and then proceed chromatically then a pitch indicator will show correct pitches. I will try to include such a bar.

I will try to reproduce that glitch.

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I have uploaded Build 54.

In this build:

IH Graph includes a coarse pitch scale.
Inharmonicity and over pull measurements have more time to start measuring.

Ron, I have yet to reproduce that ghost over pull situation.

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I have uploaded Build 55.

*** Please update ***

IH Graph pitch scale height increased for better visibility.

Main screen C6-C7 auto fill functionality is removed.

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A couple of convenience items to take or leave as you wish! Probably not used regularly by many techs?

In the main tuning screen, just like tapping on the manual/auto semitone/ A0-C8, it would be really nice to be able to tap on the 440 to adjust without going through the settings and tuning screens. Similarly, tapping on the intervals to bring up a slider to adjust to suit the piano.

I didn't get a chance to tune today - babysitting a grandson! I'll be back at it tomorrow.

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Ron, thank you for the suggestions.
I will look into them.

Happy babysitting!

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I have uploaded Build 57.

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Tuning settings can also be quickly reached by tapping on A4 frequency on Main screen.
Refreshes 500 free notes.

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Everything working well during today's tunings.

The scale on the tuning bar on the graph page is almost invisible when using smart invert to emulate dark mode. All other things seems to be visible just fine when using that setting.

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Ron, thank you for the update.

Classic invert seems to work.
I will look into it and try to make the scale visible in smart invert mode too.

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I have uploaded Build 58.

In this build:

IH Graph has Auto All note switching option, which switches to any note played between A0 and C7.

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I have uploaded Build 61. (skipped 59,60)

*** Please update. Fixes a bug that might cause crash in IH Graph ***

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Got stuck in auto step A0-C8 while in overpull mode.

Enable overpull (works fine) only manual/auto semitone available
Tap graph (A0-C8 auto step)
Go back to tuning screen and it stays on A0-C8. I had to disable overpull and then re enable to get the proper manual/auto semitone back

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Ron, thank you for the update.

I have uploaded Build 62.

It will set note switching to Auto Semitone (if over pull was on) when returning back from IH Graph to tuning screen if it was in Auto All or Auto Semitone in IH Graph.

EDIT: It is still not working. I will upload another build soon.

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I have uploaded Build 63.

*** Please update ***

Fixes a bug that would retain Auto A0-C8 when returning from IH Graph to tuning screen in over pull mode.

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I have uploaded Build 64.

In this build:

An IH graph window can be overlayed on tuning screen by tapping Overlay IH Graph button. Tapping toggles overlay window on and off.

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The new overlay worked well - even on the tiny graph it is easy to spot potential outliers to remeasure.

The A0-C8 stepping got lost a few times in the graph view - It jumped down a few octaves, so I'm guessing ventilating system noise or something like that. It took me a minute to find and tap the icon for auto semitone.

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Ron, thank you for the update.

IH Graph defaults to A0-C8 always. The IH Graph help page (? mark) includes information to tap Auto All to toggle note switching modes.

Would you prefer the current mode retained in IH graph view?

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I pre-measure for each tuning. I prefer the full-screen graph, it is easier to see for my eyes during the measuring pass. Once that is done, I don't need to see it while tuning.

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I should have been clearer.

I meant, would you like the note switching mode set in tuning screen retained when going to IH Graph, instead of defaulting it to Auto All.

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