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Originally Posted by ShiroKuro
I'm trying to avoid saying exactly what I'm doing (not sure why!) but the point is, score on the iPad (plus paper scores as needed) leaning on the music rack, access to the laptop, the keyboard and track pad on the laptop (I don't need a mouse) and access to the webcam so that web cam is picking up me, not my bellybutton.

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Probably gonna just default to "Zoom piano lessons!"


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Originally Posted by ShiroKuro
I do not have an Apple laptop, but thanks.

Sgisela, I have my sheet music on an iPad. Still need a laptop.

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I would close the fly lid, use something like the cork pad on top of the lid to hold the computer, and use an adjustable tablet stand (like this one: https://www.amazon.com/Tablet-Stand-Adjustable-Lamicall-Reader/dp/B01DBV1OKY?th=1 ) for the music. Everything’s on the lid/fly lid so you’re not stressing out the music desk with weight it wasn’t intended to bear, and you also have more room on the lid/fly lid.

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How about a camera you clip on the stand problem solved?

I have this camera

It works really well both Audio and Video and will be much better than the latop. For $20 it is a no brainer

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Or try a 'tablet' instead of a laptop.

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Originally Posted by Gombessa
Probably gonna just default to "Zoom piano lessons!"

Close enough!

Sgisela, that would be up too high for me.

Learux, I need to be able to see the laptop screen as well.

SouthPark, I have a tablet, also need a laptop.

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- In front of you would be preferable? (Or not to the side all the way?
- Easy to put away
- Looks somewhat nice (well not ugly)
- Something so it doesn’t scratch
- Doesn’t heat the piano finish

Is this correct?

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ShiroKuro, I was envisioning something like this (apologies that the photo is sideways, I couldn’t figure out how to rotate it once it uploaded this way).

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If you get the right tablet holder (which the one in the photo is not) the bottom of the ipad will be flush with the lid. I did the measurements, and this would be just 1.5” higher (on my piano) than if it were to sit straight on the music desk, which is not much of a difference and works just fine for me to read music. All I could find to put the laptop on was a lazy Susan, so it’s a bit higher here than it would need to be. But I think you could adjust it forward/back (as well as the tilt of the screen) so that the height difference relative to sitting on the side of the music desk is not significant for your purposes. I will also say that I’m a very vertically challenged person, and a setup like this would not feel like it’s too high for me, so I have a hard time imagining that it’s too high for most people (who will be less vertically challenged than I am).
I think something along the lines of this setup is more straightforward (and less stressful to the piano/music desk) than trying to get all that hardware +/- books securely positioned on the music desk. But this is going to be my last post on the subject, as it seems you are quite determined to get everything on the music desk and I don’t have anything to add as to how that would be accomplished.

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Sgisela, thanks for the photo! Hmm, you are probably right, that’s not that high, I would just need to get something for the iPad.

That would be better than buying a $50-100 table or shelf!


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How about something like this…

https://www.amazon.com/MagicHold-Mo...y=9031608&hvtargid=pla-890772838010#

you could clamp it to the music desk. You could use some cloth or rubber to protect

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Lots of good suggestions; here's another.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B001BBNROI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I found this height-adjustable laptop cart really helpful. It doesn't take up much space, comes in wood or matte gray finishes. I put it to the right (treble) of the piano so (if using Zoom) gives good visibility of entire keyboard and hands; wheels make it easy to move aside, even in a closet, for storage. If recording, I attach a remote mic or Zoom recorder on a tripod, through the USB slot, for better sound quality. This way, nothing is attached to or heating up the piano.


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Originally Posted by ShiroKuro
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Imagine a laptop sitting there, facing the person at the piano. Then the person would still have access to the music rack and whatever might be there.

That's good solution. Need to check the laptop is properly supported, use pads or something if necessary. My laptop has various ventilation holes underneath, presumably for good reason.


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Slightly OT, but nevertheless a related question:

If a laptop has ventilation holes on the bottom, can it really be used "on one's lap"? Would not whatever clothing one is wearing obstruct the ventilation?

My laptop which is nearing five years old and still going strong (knocking firmly on wood!) has no fan and no ventilation. I use it literally as a laptop, i.e., on my lap and it never gets warm.

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Bruce, all things in moderation. You probably won't fully obstruct all the vents all the time when on your lap. Modern systems will also throttle when on battery or when loads are light (or when temperatures start to rise).

But if you are maxing out the CPU with rendering or high performance gaming, your lap is forfeit even if the vents are completely unblocked.


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If a laptop has ventilation holes on the bottom, can it really be used "on one's lap"? Would not whatever clothing one is wearing obstruct the ventilation?

I believe that when a laptop is on a hard (solid) surface, those vents are meaningful (useful? functional?) because there is a space created by the vents. But if you put the laptop on fabric or something else soft and/or flexible, it's more likely that the space created by the vent is filled by the soft material.

Whether or not this becomes a problem depends on the laptop. If you can feel your laptop and it's never hot on the top or bottom, then I would say you don't have anything to worry about. I think some laptops are more prone to overheating and others not.

My laptop doesn't always run hot, but sometimes it gets hotter than other times, so it's worth it to me to make sure that the vents aren't blocked (so I never use it on anything other than a hard, solid surface). And also since I don't want to set something on my piano which might get hot, I decided I would only put the laptop on the computer with some kind of barrier to protect the piano from any possibility of heat.

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, as they say!


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As long as the laptop stays put, then that will be great. This probably includes making sure that tablets stay put as well - as in not accidentally falling, or scraping or damaging etc the piano. That's if one wants to keep the piano in good shape all the time. Otherwise, moving laptops and things like that about is accident waiting to happen, and could end in tears. But that's only if there is any concern about getting the piano scraped/scratched etc. Although, damages can usually be fixed if there is a need for it. Otherwise - marks etc could be seen to add character. Depends on situation I guess.

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Hi All,

Don't overthink this!

A simple lap-tray used for TV dinners (remember those?) that has a melamine top and a 'beanbag' underside (usually filled with polystyrene beads) will provide a hard surface to mount your laptop on without interfering with its ventilation, will be heat resistant and the soft underside will mould to whichever surface it's placed upon and probably cost under $10 from your local kitchenware store to boot!

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