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Jameezy, I think that sounds like a good price. I think you're right, in this market, piano prices are up, that's just how it is.


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That too. We have a few friends that have to fiddle with things when they talk. The piano lid remains closed whenever they come over. I don’t know how these people ever made adulthood. Don’t touch other people’s stuff.

Do they reach into the piano and pluck the strings??
I mean-what else can you do?

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That too. We have a few friends that have to fiddle with things when they talk. The piano lid remains closed whenever they come over. I don’t know how these people ever made adulthood. Don’t touch other people’s stuff.

Do they reach into the piano and pluck the strings??
I mean-what else can you do?

Is it when they're talking about or commenting on the piano itself? I found my mom starting to touch the inside of the piano when I was showing it to her. She was talking about how beautiful it was etc., and then reached out and touched the frame or strings or something to ask a question or make a comment.

I had to jump on her a bit, I was like "now please don't go touching that, it's all been set up very carefully, and I wouldn't want something to get messed up by accident."

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At my last party (just a month before the first covid lockdown), I had planned on keeping the piano lid closed and the fallboard down, but someone (maybe here) pointed out that if the lid is closed, please may be tempted to set their glasses on the piano.

So I ended up opening the lid to the short stick, and opening the fallboard. I also made a little sign, printed on cardstock with fancy lettering, that said something like "no drinks -- or anything else -- on the piano. Thank you!"

It seemed to work, nothing on the piano during the party.


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At my last party (just a month before the first covid lockdown), I had planned on keeping the piano lid closed and the fallboard down, but someone (maybe here) pointed out that if the lid is closed, please may be tempted to set their glasses on the piano.

Wow, that's a good catch. It would just kill my mood for the party if that happened. Sounds like you came up with a great solution!


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Put the piano on LOCKDOWN!

Fallboard lock (clamping thing) thick piano cover with locking straps, DO NOT TOUCH sign, piano security guards, OK maybe not that last one-well YOU are the security guard!

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Originally Posted by probably blue
Put the piano on LOCKDOWN!

Fallboard lock (clamping thing) thick piano cover with locking straps, DO NOT TOUCH sign, piano security guards, OK maybe not that last one-well YOU are the security guard!


Or maybe just a polite sign: please, no food or drinks around the piano


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Put the piano on LOCKDOWN!

Fallboard lock (clamping thing) thick piano cover with locking straps, DO NOT TOUCH sign, piano security guards, OK maybe not that last one-well YOU are the security guard!


Or maybe just a polite sign: please, no food or drinks around the piano
ha That will work too—

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Interesting development....

I put down a $5.5K deposit on the Yamaha (I got price down to $25.5K, just under $27K after tax). The Schimmel dealer calls me a few days later, saying he is getting a new Schimmel Classic 189 next week, and offers it to me for $40K+tax. I said I already put down that deposit, he knocks it down to $37K+tax.

I'll go sit down at it, but after the deposit loss and tax, I will end up at $45K, so will have to come out of pocket an additional $18K for the new Schimmel classic over the 1999 Yamaha C5.

My thought now is get the Yamaha, then in 5-10 years if I want to upgrade to a higher level piano I can, even though I doubt I'd find a similar deal. But for now since I am still really playing at an intermediate level wait a few years to develop my own style and ear before dropping that kind of money on a piano. The Yamaha will serve me well for now, and nowhere does it say that it has to be a "forever piano."

But what a wrench! From what I gather $37K is a ridiculous deal on a new Schimmel Classic 189.

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Interesting development....

But what a wrench! From what I gather $37K is a ridiculous deal on a new Schimmel Classic 189.

I dont know the local market. In Europe that would be the normal price.


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Yes, that is an exceptionally low price for a C189, but you've already put down a deposit on a C5 that you like. The C5 isn't exactly a screamingly good deal at this price, but in the end I would definitely advise you to buy the piano you like best, and not the "deal"... If it's the low bass richness and power you're after, the C5 will probably be better in this regard, while the tone, keyboard and actions of these two pianos will be quite different from each other.


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Terminal degree, your point is well taken. I suppose it’s a little bit of a bummer just knowing that had I waited 1 week I could have potentially had another great option. I think the Schimmel classic would provide a little more richness and bass than the smaller W. Schimmel, which was the main deciding factor in going with the Yamaha. But at the time I was making the decision last week it wasn’t an option. I also felt the Yamaha was priced a little high, but not ridiculous, especially given the local market here. and it is in excellent shape.

This was my first experience buying an acoustic piano, and Ive learned a ton. I think the Yamaha C5 will be great, and has something to offer that is very different than Schimmel. It’s been very hard to say which piano I like BEST, since I like both for different reasons.

Like I mentioned before, I think the C5 will be a terrific piano for me given where I am in my musical journey, and committing to the even higher priced Schimmel classic (despite the relative good deal on it now) would be premature for me given my lack of experience with acoustic pianos in general.

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Good plan! You don’t know what your taste will be in five years. In fact, you may decide you are very happy with the C5


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by no means am I disappointed with the C5. I’ve loved playing it every time I’ve been able to sit down at it. And that makes me feel good about the decision too.

I have found this piano buying experience to be incredibly stressful, and filled with feelings of doubt. I hope that next time around, after gaining some experience, it will be these little easier.

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Dogperson thanks for the words of encouragement!

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Jameezy, I think the C5 will be a great piano for you! You did your due diligence on the purchase, and at some point, it’s important for the shopping roller coaster to be done. It sounds like you’re not having too many second thoughts… so just keep it that way and look forward to the day that it’s delivered to your home!

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Hmm, that's tricky but since the Schimmel is so much more expensive, it wouldn't have been an automatic decision in any case.

And the Schimmel is enticing now precisely because you haven't played it yet. You might find you don't even like it.

I think this is the piano version of FOMO -- I bought this piano, but now another one has come along, oh no!

It's totally natural, but try not to torture yourself.

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I have found this piano buying experience to be incredibly stressful, and filled with feelings of doubt. I hope that next time around, after gaining some experience, it will be these little easier.

The piano buying process is totally stressful, it's not just you and it's not because you're doing something wrong. You're actually doing it right, but there's no way around the fact that you have difficult choices and limited resources financially (we all do, even if the numbers are different, we all have a top number above which we can't go).

I do think it will be a little easier in a few years just because experience, both as a piano shopper and as a grand-owner, makes a big difference.

Hang in there!!


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Maybe the Yamaha dealer will agree to refunding the 5K deposit. After trying the new Schimmel offered by the other dealer you could ask the dealer selling the Yamaha. Or maybe he'd agree to returning most, if not all, of your 5K deposit. There might even be some law that requires him to refund the deposit if you decide you don't want the piano. Of course, all the above is contingent on your deciding that you like the Schimmel more.

Terminaldegree's advice about NOT buying the deal is very important. No matter how good the deal is it won't really be a good deal if you don't like the piano a lot.

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All great advice. I’ll go check it out this week. If I absolutely love it, I’ll call back the Yamaha dealer and see what he says about the deposit. If it’s not a total game changer I’ll keep with my original decision, because it is still a decent chunk of money we’re talking about ($13k if I get deposit back, $18k without).

I think piano FOMO is exactly what this is! Hahah. I almost wish the Schimmel dealer just didn’t tell me about the new piano!

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