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And, I think 'tangential' things like this can be a big part of how people on a discussion site can get to 'know' one another, and therefore how there can be more bonding and how it can feel more and more interesting to be on the site.
I think similarly about various kinds of off-topic subjects which are hugely discouraged by this site, for which I think it suffers.
Definitely! I'm still new to forums but it's really fun to get familiar with the personalities behind the username. Even though the internet has moved past forum sites, the more intimate nature of the ones that are still active makes me feel like I'm experiencing the internet in a far different way.

I've grown up with some form of decent speed wireless internet and it often doesn't really click that people on social media or instant messaging sites are real people. The environment on these sites is a lot more like how I see people describing the internet when it first started to become accessible.


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Originally Posted by David-G
What is the difference between the "sh" in "sheet" and the "sh" in "shop"?

I can't hear any.

You're right -- but it depends on how you say those words.
I didn't realize it at the time, but when I saw his post, I automatically imagined "sheet" being said in a way that shows it.

How about this: Try already having your mouth sort of in position for the "ee" when you start the word.
That ought to do it...

I have tried and tried ... I can't hear any difference!

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OK, let's try this....

Get ready to say "sh" but don't say it yet....
Great ready to say it two different ways.

1. Pucker your lips. As though you're going to kiss. Or if you're not in a kissing mood grin ....as though you're going to say "Shhhhh!" -- y'know, like when you're demanding quiet -- y'know, like if you're a librarian, or an usher at a golf tournament. ha

ln fact, forget all that.
Just say "Shhhh!" like you're demanding quiet.

That's the first "sh" sound, the common English kind.

2. SMILE.
Real wide.

Keep the smile.

Now say "sh," keeping the smile to the fullest extent you can. You'll probably have to constrict it some, but as little as possible.

That's the other "sh" sound.
(I don't mean that's what's actually done to say it; this is just an exaggerated way to produce the sound.)

If you can't hear the difference, either you're not really doing what I described, or for whatever reason you just don't hear it.


I'll also try to describe the way that the second "sh" is different:
It has more air. smile

It's like adding some hiss to the 'sh.'

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The "Shop" sh is the one we're used to in English, "sz". This is a video demonstrating how to pronounce "ś"


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