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Hello everyone, im looking at getting a weighted keyboard to replace my arturia keylab 88 essential. I have just found a casio PX-S3000 for $500 AUD (359 USD) and its mint condition. Should I pick this up? Does anyone have one or know what its like? Thank you

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Originally Posted by Micahjd
Hello everyone, im looking at getting a weighted keyboard to replace my arturia keylab 88 essential. I have just found a casio PX-S3000 for $500 AUD (359 USD) and its mint condition. Should I pick this up? Does anyone have one or know what its like? Thank you
It depends. Marmite (Vegemite)board. Great value for money, super portable, lots of function. But....some on here don't like the key action at all, especially the feel up close to the back of the keys where it can be firm. But most folded actions in portables are like this as well, although some better than others. So for home piano Bach and Chopin, etc, maybe not, but pop, rock, jazz, and gigging easy with it's light weight maybe so. You have to try it yourself of course and compare to your Arturia.

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well my Arturia is semi-weighted. I will be using this at home and want a pretty good key action so i wonder how ill like this one.

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Originally Posted by Micahjd
well my Arturia is semi-weighted. I will be using this at home and want a pretty good key action so i wonder how ill like this one.

I would not describe it as ‘a pretty good key action’

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I owned the PX-S1000 and found the difficulty of pressing down keys near the fallboard (back of key) the one thing I could not accept.

I returned it.

I think the key action for the PX-S3000 is the same as the PX-S1000.


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Originally Posted by Micahjd
well my Arturia is semi-weighted. I will be using this at home and want a pretty good key action so i wonder how ill like this one.

I would go play it.

Unless you need a light narrow keyboard I would get something else.


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Some perspective here though -- the PX-S3000 would still be a massive improvement over the Key lab 88 Essential. Keep in mind that keylab has a synth action that is definitely worse than the Casio about playing toward the back of the keys, let alone the overall feel of the keys for piano.

Sure, if OP can find some other keyboards with different actions in the price range that's great. But it doesn't seem like a bad deal for a major step up in action quality, even if it's not up to many people's standard here. I also personally prefer the Casio's action to some other entry level options like the Yamaha GHS and Fatar TP-100, even with the short pivot.

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Originally Posted by napilopez
Some perspective here though -- the PX-S3000 would still be a massive improvement over the Key lab 88 Essential. Keep in mind that keylab has a synth action that is definitely worse than the Casio about playing toward the back of the keys, let alone the overall feel of the keys for piano.

Sure, if OP can find some other keyboards with different actions in the price range that's great. But it doesn't seem like a bad deal for a major step up in action quality, even if it's not up to many people's standard here. I also personally prefer the Casio's action to some other entry level options like the Yamaha GHS and Fatar TP-100, even with the short pivot.

I support this consideration, also ....

I liked the action on the PX-S1000 overall. It was just that "near the back of the keys" thing that ultimately led to my returning it.

I might add that I also had the MP11SE at the time .... so, my sense of what a good keyboard felt like was at a high level.


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Originally Posted by Micahjd
Hello everyone, im looking at getting a weighted keyboard to replace my arturia keylab 88 essential. I have just found a casio PX-S3000 for $500 AUD (359 USD) and its mint condition. Should I pick this up? Does anyone have one or know what its like? Thank you


As some have said, you'd better try it if you can, as you are the best person to judge if it suits you or not.


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I've waited until everybody has had their say before adding my opinion.
I have a 3000, (along with MP11SE, Numa Compact 2X semi wieghted, Kronos 2 88, Montage 88, acoustic grand etc.), so I have a bit to compare to. I didn't buy the 3000 for the best and truest weighted piano action experience. I'm convinced that is not who it is aimed at. How many times is a product released, and the application it is intended for has been twisted by wishful thinkers into expecting top end performance in a narrow specialized area!

It is nothing like my Acoustic grand to play, but it is in my opinion a great portable weighted action with a very responsive velocity experience, and is great as a general controller particularly for other sounds too. This compromise is why I like it for my other instruments as well, and am happy to overlook the compromises which I have learnt to overcome. it is considered quite light for a weighted action, but if you're coming from a semi wieghted,(synth) action, it would still give you the quickness for play everything else, but is still quite responsive for piano too. I really enjoy playing Pianoteq with it.
The thing I find about Privia actions is the general "wobbliness" of the keys, I once had a PX5S and 560, which this issue really got to me, but the 3000 is a little tighter than those so it doesn't bother me. But it's the price to pay for a keybed that has a nice free swinging counterweight action that's good for fast non piano instruments in a weighted keybed.
(You haven't said whether you will be using it for a range of sounds.)

Yes the pivot is short, and if you don't have the skill which comes from playing a variety of acoustics in all manner of disrepair, it would probably irk you. I think for $500, it's a good deal if it's in perfect condition. I paid around $1200Aud for mine, and have had my value out of it.
If you want a focused "piano only" playing action then maybe not, but for the price I still think it's worth it, especially if, as said by others you're coming from a semi weighted. I'm guessing you may not have the luxury of trying it first, if buying online here in Australia is anything to go by. I sometimes buy to trying, decide if I like it, then on selling down the track if it's cheapness is worth the risk.


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