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I have an old Kawai CA67 in addition to my Bluthner grand. I dont know if the Roland has an internal amp of the same level as the Kawai. But I had no issue driving any kind of headphone with the internal amp of the Kawai.

I used a number of headphones. Currently I use the AKG Q701, Sennheiser HD 650 (with Cardas cable) and the Beyer DT Pro 990 Edition 250 Ohms (I also used the AKG 240 Mk II, Senn HD 599 and HD 598 and a few others). All of these works just fine with the Kawai with more than enough volume.

I use them also directly on my fixed PC (internal amp) and my tablet Samsung. The volume is good enough for most cases, the Sennheiser being the easiest to drive.

Of course all of these headphones deliver a much better result with a good external amp. I use an old Musical Fidelity X Can V3 class A tubed amp into my BAT tubed preamp (I am rarely going more than 1/3 of the amp power). The quality is a notch higher but for the piano usage, the Kawai internal amp is more than enough.

The 3 headphones are fairly comfortable to wear, the AKG Q701 being the most comfortable for me. If needed long hours wont create any issue. In terms of sound the Sennheiser has more bass and is more balanced than the others. The AKG has a clearer and smoother sparkling treble and less bass. The Beyer is in between with an emphasis on the mids. It is a question of preference for the type of sound you like.

For the DP I tend to prefer the AKG because they are more comfy and have a lighter sound which is less tiring over long hours. In my HiFi system I usually prefer the Senn for its more full bodied sound or the Beyer when I want to put emphasis on the voices.


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For the last decade there has usually been a question regarding headphones for digital pianos on this forum.

Hundreds and hundreds of opinions.

But, I don’t recall anyone saying that ultra expensive headphones or headphone amps are going to ‘transform’ the playing experience for digital pianos. This is surprising.

I mean usually in any discussion of headphones online there will be folks declaring the absolute necessity for electrostatics, or the latest $5k planars. But not here.

If someone out there disagrees, then please chime in.

But I’m guessing that once you get to a certain level of headphone quality (I use AKG K701s) that going any farther up the headphone ladder probably won’t get a significant improvement in DP sound.

I do think that there are plenty of opportunities for improvement by using good quality plug-ins for EQ, reverb, stereo width, dynamic range, etc. And we should share our experiences with those.

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Originally Posted by PianoMan51
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But I’m guessing that once you get to a certain level of headphone quality (I use AKG K701s) that going any farther up the headphone ladder probably won’t get a significant improvement in DP sound.

. . .

+1.

I'd also ask a slightly different question:

. . . Why is this group different from any other group ?

Here's my tongue-in-cheek answer:

This group almost all plays on digital instruments. And for those instruments, the "original sound" isn't sound at all:

. . . it's an audio signal on a wire, and it's gone through digitization somewhere along the line.

You can't hear it. To hear it, you must use a transducer, and we know from experience that every transducer is imperfect.

So _our_ headphones don't have to reproduce the _soul_ of the signal -- because it doesn't have one. A reasonably accurate reproduction of the analog (or digital) signal is all we can ask.

On the other hand, a 50-year-old, vinyl reproduction of a tape-recorded session by Glenn Gould -- _that_ has _soul_, and you need much more expensive gear to bring it out.<G>

PS -- I'm not bashing the hi-fi community's search for the "ultimate sound" -- perfection is worth pursuing. But as PianoMan51 says, sometimes that community loses touch with the notion of "good enough".


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@ Charles - yep agree - also I say this about my playing too - to my ears 'good enough' he he = maybe not the rest of my enduring family lol

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Thanks to everyone for the advice you gave me, before proceeding with the purchase, I decided to read up on everything. I therefore postpone the shopping until I am sure which product is right for me. Thanks again and have a nice weekend

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