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#3177040 12/12/21 02:14 PM
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Hello everyone, I am new to this forum and wish to pick your brains on the choice of DP.
I used to play the guitar and became really interested in classical music and piano playing since pandemic. I am currently at beginner level and wish to learn piano seriously and play classical repertoire/Jazz piano one day. After reading reviews online (and play a few), I am determined to get Kawai CA series and my budget is ~ $3000. In the US, put me around CA49/59. However, I discovered a CA95 seller who priced his DP at comparable price. In making my decision of which one to get, I was curious:
(1) How this out-dated premium DP compared to current mid-tier DPs in terms of actions and sound.
(2) How reliable CA95 is after years? Even though the seller describes it as barely used/as new, I did find a few posts here talking about sticky keys or dead CA95s.

Any input would be greatly appreciated!

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After reading reviews online (and play a few), I am determined to get Kawai CA series and my budget is ~ $3000. In the US, put me around CA49/59. However, I discovered a CA95 seller who priced his DP at comparable price

You might be surprised. Some of the dealers I talked to are now starting to contact me saying that the CA79 I was looking for is now in stock. But I'd already found and bought a new satin black CA99 (not a typo) for $4,500 including sales tax, which is 6% in their state.

The online price is usually called the MAP or Minimum Advertised Price. That's a contractual requirement where the manufacturer tells the dealer what the lowest price they can list online is, but they can sell it for less if contacted directly. That's why so many dealers list the same price.

The MSRP in the US for the CA99 in satin black is $6,700 and the MAP seems to be $5,600 yet I got it, without asking, for about $4,300 + sales tax.

The CA79/CA99 Grand Feel III action is really nice. The CA79 MAP looks to be about $1,400 less than the CA99. So if I got a CA99 for $4,300 plus tax, then you might be able to find a CA79 just over $3,000 if you ask.

Ray

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$3000. In the US, put me around CA49/59. However, I discovered a CA95 seller who priced his DP at comparable price
there is nothing wrong buying a CA95 today, if you know what you expect and the price is good. But $3000 isn't a good price at all...

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> (2) How reliable CA95 is after years?

Look up the Kawai Grand Feel Key Clinic thread.

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Ray Thank you so much! I certainly didn't know that!

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$3000. In the US, put me around CA49/59. However, I discovered a CA95 seller who priced his DP at comparable price
there is nothing wrong buying a CA95 today, if you know what you expect and the price is good. But $3000 isn't a good price at all...

The price is $2000. I actually don't know if that is a great price for a 8-year-old flagship

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The CA95
Try it out. If you like the touch and sound, the price is not that bad.


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Originally Posted by chemy
The price is $2000. I actually don't know if that is a great price for a 8-year-old flagship

It doesn't matter what the price is as long as you think it's a good value for you.

You definitely need to give it a good try yourself, though. Whatever the reputation is for that model pales in comparison to how the owner took care of it or (ab)used it. You could easily eat up the price difference in repairs and who knows how available the parts are? That's one reason I bought new, the 5-year warranty. Buy once, cry once.

Do you know why they are selling? That could be a clue. Maybe they upgraded or maybe they died and the kids are trying to dump it and it's been sitting in a damp basement for a year.


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Originally Posted by chemy
The price is $2000. I actually don't know if that is a great price for a 8-year-old flagship

It doesn't matter what the price is as long as you think it's a good value for you.

You definitely need to give it a good try yourself, though. Whatever the reputation is for that model pales in comparison to how the owner took care of it or (ab)used it. You could easily eat up the price difference in repairs and who knows how available the parts are? That's one reason I bought new, the 5-year warranty. Buy once, cry once.

Do you know why they are selling? That could be a clue. Maybe they upgraded or maybe they died and the kids are trying to dump it and it's been sitting in a damp basement for a year.

I agree. The owner says they bought it for kid but kid never was interested and it became a furniture essentially. I will rethink the deal. Thanks again!

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Just an afterthought

I picked up my CA67 for $1800 about five years ago. In Minnesota. The owner thought that was fair, and so did I. Excellent condition.

One day I might open it and see how the action is. There is a small pad with a plastic tape on it to raise the hammer. It is at the back end of the key. These have been known to slip a bit with heavy playing.

Were I to have the urge, and I mean The Urge, I would consider getting the correct felt and replace these pads. And maybe fiddle a bit with the Registration.

Here is an example of what can be done.

http://nebula.wsimg.com/7563cfd9d30...548C&disposition=0&alloworigin=1


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