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What do you think about people that insist Floyd Cramer was the best piano player ever? Also some people say that about Jerry Lee Lewis.

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What do I think? I don’t agree with either choice but I’m glad they seem to enjoy music enough to have an opinion.


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You are invited to listen to Don Robertson.

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An interesting answer.

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A lot of people seem to think Last Date is awesome.

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I do enjoy 'Last Date', but I like 'On the Rebound' better. He's certainly a good player, but I wouldn't say the best.



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Hi

People who think that are, well, frankly deluded. It's hero worship taken to the extreme. I've nothing against Floyd Cramer btw. As others have said he was a good player, and innovative, and I'd happily listen to his recordings.

There's certainly an argument to be made that Jerry Lee Lewis was the best ever Rock 'n' Roll Piano player.

But statements like "the best ever" with no qualification whatsoever are juvenile. Sadly these sort of comments are all over social media these days.

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I enjoy them both a lot as well....but 'Best Ever' claims are silly.

I think these declarations come from people that simply haven't listened to enough music ( not saying I have either! ).

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Well I am a nobody in the musical world and still struggle to play tunes. However, I listen to piano music a lot. I do not know if my favorite is the best or not but I sure love listening to him play. When I play piano music to listen to I always start with Richard Clayderman. I also listen to others play piano, but I still like his playing the best.

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Two words: Art Tatum


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Farmerjones, I totally agree.

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Hi

Art Tatum was an amazing Jazz Pianist, arguably the greatest ever. I own 2 incredible box sets of his recordings, but to imply he's the 'best ever' without clarification is silly.

There is no 'best ever' Pianist. It's an impossible thing to define because of the different styles of music over the last 500 years.

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I also like Cramer's version of Lovesick Blues. I like to play On the Rebound a little faster than he did.

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Originally Posted by Simon_b
There is no 'best ever' Pianist. It's an impossible thing to define because of the different styles of music.
I agree to 100%.

But I do like Floyd Cramer. Maybe I am allowed to add some background information about him in this thread (?) He was Elvis' pianist in many recordings and one of the inventers of the "Nashville slip note style" (which can be heard not only in Floyd's own renditions but also e.g. in Elvis' recording of "I've met her today"). Floyd's greatest hit single was "Last date" (1962). "On the rebound" was its sequel and implies the grief and sorrow of that last date are over now and it is time to start a new love.

Floyd was a great pianist, but one must also admit that most of his recordings owe their fantastic sound to the orchestral background and the choir.

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I like to play On the Rebound a little faster than he did.
And, yes, I have played "Last date" and "On the rebound" as well, but without the orchestra in the background, they sound less good (or do you think otherwise?)

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Originally Posted by Pianist685
He was Elvis' pianist in many recordings and one of the inventers of the "Nashville slip note style" (which can be heard not only in Floyd's own renditions but also e.g. in Elvis' recording of "I've met her today").
...and even more and better in "Anything that's part of you".


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Some people might get mad at me for this but I don't consider Floyd a "great" pianist. Good, yes, and innovative, but a lot of people can play Last Date exactly like he did. "Great" in my opinion is more like Roger Williams, Liberace, Emily Bear, and Art Tatum and maybe even Oscar Peterson. Floyd did play a lot of songs and was in demand as a studio musician. He has his place in history.

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I don't think I've seen anyone arguing your point on Floyd Cramer not being 'great'. I do enjoy some of his tunes and a few of them are on my bucket list to be able to play someday.

I'm probably an unsophisticated listener compared to most of the folks on this sub-forum. Most of my modest jazz album collection isn't even piano based. The few pianists albums I have are Bill Evans, Ramsey Lewis, Ahmad Jamal, Les McCann, Oscar Peterson, Michel Petrucciani and George Winston. Some of them might be considered great or maybe not so much. Their music appeals to me, but I readily admit that there are many more artists that I haven't checked out yet.


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No argument here, just sharing ideas.

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Originally Posted by CWT
No argument here, just sharing ideas.

Speaking of sharing ideas, thank you for mentioning Emily Bear. I hadn't heard of her and she's pretty amazing for someone so young. I noticed on your profile that you play organ among some other instruments. Would it be the Hammond B3 or something similar?. I have a Jimmy McGriff album and realize that Jimmy Smith is even better. I also discovered Barbara Dennerlein, either from a YouTube random suggestion or more likely a share from this forum. Although not piano, she might be considered 'great'.


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Originally Posted by CWT
Some people might get mad at me for this but I don't consider Floyd a "great" pianist. Good, yes, and innovative, but a lot of people can play Last Date exactly like he did.
It's like saying that a lot of people can invent a new style or a new way of playing. But what is the meaning of the term “innovator?” You are probably an elderly native of the States, and for you this style is as familiar as air; I, likewise, from the Soviet Union. When I first heard Floyd Kramer's recording in the 50s, his style was like a blow to the head for me - completely different from Soviet popular music, and also New Orleans jazz and swing, which I already listened to. I immediately began to try to reproduce this style on the piano, and apparently became the pioneer of this style of piano throughout the country.

So try to reproduce On the Rebound with all the little details ...

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