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#3167645 10/31/21 07:13 PM
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@Kawai James, how do I go about reporting this so that it can be fixed?

To see the bug, do the following steps:

Choose a patch from the electric piano section that has effects engaged, eg “tine 3”.

Hold down some notes.

Keeping the notes held, switch to a different patch, such as “tine 2”.

Now if you disengage any of the FX, you'll hear that this action affects the held notes - it shouldn’t as the patch has been switched so the buttons should really only now apply to “tine 2”.

Release the notes and then play some more notes. You’ll now be hearing the patch on “tine 2” but even though the FX lights are now off, you’ll hear that the effects are actually still engaged.

The same thing happens with the “amp” button and probably with the “reverb” button.

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Hello Quatschmacher,

May I kindly ask you to confirm the version of the firmware running on your MP11SE, please?

The latest version on this page (at the time of writing) is 1.04. If your MP11SE is running an older firmware, please apply the latest update and let me know if the problem that you are encountring still occurrs.

If it does, I can pass-on your comment to a colleague on the MP product team to investigate further.

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Hi James,

thanks for your reply.

I’m on the latest firmware (it was already installed when I got the piano a few months ago), so the bug is in the latest version.

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Hello Peter,

Thank you for your reply, and confirming that your MP11SE is running the latest firmware.

Regarding this point:

Originally Posted by Quatschmacher
Now if you disengage any of the FX, you'll hear that this action affects the held notes - it shouldn’t as the patch has been switched so the buttons should really only now apply to “tine 2”.

This is actually the correct behaviour, and not a bug. The held notes of TINE3 and the newly played notes of TINE2 use the same effects block, therefore the EFX on/off button affects both sounds.

Originally Posted by Quatschmacher
Release the notes and then play some more notes. You’ll now be hearing the patch on “tine 2” but even though the FX lights are now off, you’ll hear that the effects are actually still engaged.

I don't believe this should happen.
Are you using the E.PIANO section only? Are any other sections turned on?

May I ask you to send me a PM with a video that demonstrates this behaviour, please?

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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Hello Peter,

Thank you for your reply, and confirming that your MP11SE is running the latest firmware.

Regarding this point:

Originally Posted by Quatschmacher
Now if you disengage any of the FX, you'll hear that this action affects the held notes - it shouldn’t as the patch has been switched so the buttons should really only now apply to “tine 2”.

This is actually the correct behaviour, and not a bug. The held notes of TINE3 and the newly played notes of TINE2 use the same effects block, therefore the EFX on/off button affects both sounds.

Originally Posted by Quatschmacher
Release the notes and then play some more notes. You’ll now be hearing the patch on “tine 2” but even though the FX lights are now off, you’ll hear that the effects are actually still engaged.

I don't believe this should happen.
Are you using the E.PIANO section only? Are any other sections turned on?

May I ask you to send me a PM with a video that demonstrates this behaviour, please?

Kind regards,
James
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Hi James,

I see your point about the effects block being shared. I assumed it was like the 1, 2 and 3 buttons and totally separate.

In this example, I only had the electric piano section enabled. I will see if the behaviour also happens in the other two sections.

Yes, I can make a video tonight and send it.

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Hello,

It may be useful to refer to the block diagram on page 19 of the owner's manual to get a better understanding of how the different sections and their effects etc. are structured.

https://www.kawai-global.com/data/manuals/MP11SE_EN_R100.pdf#page=19

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Dear Kawaii James, I am new to the Forum and am a proud owner of a new MP11SE. Bought it from Sweetwater two months ago. Now, I have not played it much, intensely tried out different functions but then left it alone and played a little bit on and off. Starting probably a couple of weeks ago, the screen started to do this funny thing, so I want to get opinions.
First, the software is 1.04.

What it does is that as soon as I start hitting some key, the screen starts up flash/display values of different settings, e.g volume, damper resonance, brilliance etc, whatever adjustment that there is, it quickly runs through those in the center of the screen. Sometimes, the value actually changes by itself, for example the volume would change from 104 up before the next adjustment value appears.
The interesting thing is these random cycling of modules and value do not actually take effect, as I'm playing. Nothing that I'd notice. Today, I just continue to play and after a while, it stopped cycling through displays. Looked like it calmed down at last.... Any ideas?


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