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Hello Forum members, I am looking for some advice on how to go about practicing Hanon, specifically, how to build speed, move and advance thru the book. Here are some of my questions:

Should I start at low BPM, hands separated, until fluent, joint hands once they are able to play to target speed?
How to increase the speed? and when? Should I increase a couple of BPM per day, or try to have 10 BMP jumps, to "push" the confort zone?
When to move to exercise #2?, when I master exercise #1 to zillion speed?
What about variations (change the dynamics, etc.)? should I do variations when in the first lesson?

There are some many brilliant ideas on variations in the internet, but I am really confused when I should progress, etc.
I have not moved from Lesson 1 for about 1 month and only increased speed from 50 BPM to 60BPM, because still hear dissonant sounds, or left hand is not perfect when I played separate from the right. I do not know if I am overkilling it.

Thank you in advance.

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Don't do Hanon without a teacher. You'll hurt yourself.

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There are many different ways to practice Hanon, my teacher goes by #1, then #5 & 6, then #2 since they use different techniques. #2 is actually trickier since it involves both wrist circle and forearm rotation. Here are the tutorials:

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Originally Posted by Sullivan
There are some many brilliant ideas on variations in the internet, but I am really confused when I should progress, etc.
I have not moved from Lesson 1 for about 1 month and only increased speed from 50 BPM to 60BPM, because still hear dissonant sounds, or left hand is not perfect when I played separate from the right. I do not know if I am overkilling it.
Based on this I don't think you should be practicing Hanon at all or just practicing it very slowly and worrying about good tone and dynamic control. The first Hanon is almost like a 5 finger position just moving up one step on each repetition.

Practicing any exercise will not do any/much good unless it's done correctly. If you have difficulty with #1 there may be something very basic wrong with your technique. Technique will not improve much just by practicing something over and over.

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Whatever you do, make sure that you ignore the instruction at the front to “lift your fingers high”. You might get away with it if you have naturally flexible fingers but if not it’s a sure fire way to hurt yourself.

Nowadays any physio will tell you to do stretches slowly and carefully and not during the activity that you’re stretching to improve. But back in Hanon’s day they just thought it was okay to stretch “on the job” so to speak.


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Originally Posted by Qazsedcft
Don't do Hanon without a teacher. You'll hurt yourself.

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Please watch Graham Fitch on how to go about doing technical exercises:



You will see that it's all about ingraining safe, comfortable, efficient movements, from which speed and eveness can develop. He gets on to Hanon at about 8.15.

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I would practice Hanon according to my teacher's instructions, like everything else I practice.


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I've just commented on Hanon at a different thread. It seems to be a hot topic nowadays. laugh

First of all you need to play it nicely, with accents and help yourself with your arm, not just moving your fingers. In my opinion the main benefit of Hanon is learning to do helping wrist motions.

Play all exercises, don't get stuck. Play it all hands separately, don't worry about playing hands together now. And most importantly don't strive for speed for now, strive for great comfort when playing them.

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