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Originally Posted by Twindad
- And...I don't think this has been brought up yet...it saves on wear and tear on my Bechstein, which was one of the primary reasons I bought it.

Now - in my experience, as good as it is, it doesn't provide the same nuance and depth of possibilities in terms of creating different shades of sound as my acoustic.

The DP does save on the wear and tear on the hammers. Mine are still in good shape my tech said but after fifteen years, I definitely need to have a fairly aggressive filing as opposed to needling. I'm waiting on when he can free up a weekend to take the action to his shop. He has a very busy gig as head tech at the Colburn School. With covid opening he's swamped between the numerous school pianos and catching up with private clients.

As nice sounding as the N3X is, I still have to go check/listen to chord voicings/structures I come with on the D. My sometimes harmonically dense, complex chords are a huge part of my vocabulary when playing Jazz. I would say a solid half the time after writing my voicings out and then checking them, I have to change the notes, if I'm re-harmonizing a tune. Sometimes I add or subtract notes, or change the shape of the chord dramatically. The chords and their color just simply don't sound the same on a digital as acoustic. I can't come with the words to verbalize why that is, I simply have my ears to tell me-- yes that's right or no, that doesn't sound as good.

Again, I'm thankful to have the AG for in the living room, it really sounds excellent and is a highly useful, handy tool but restating the obvious-- it's not an acoustic, nor is it a D.


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I love my AP, very personal relationship! I love my digi too(through my headphones) as they are just different instruments. Just the other day I played one of my compositions in Epiano mode on my DP and was awesome to hear it a different way! I also use the Clav mode a lot on the DP. The AP is part of the house upstairs, and been part of my heart since I first played her last December. The DP is in a cool studio room, downstairs.They are both just different vibes.

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Originally Posted by Xam
I love my AP, very personal relationship! I love my digi too(through my headphones) as they are just different instruments. Just the other day I played one of my compositions in Epiano mode on my DP and was awesome to hear it a different way! I also use the Clav mode a lot on the DP. The AP is part of the house upstairs, and been part of my heart since I first played her last December. The DP is in a cool studio room, downstairs.They are both just different vibes.

Same here... my acoustic pianos are my favorite, but I like my digital too. On the digital piano voices, I particularly like a combo/blend of the grand piano and 1960s electric piano. Not too plain sounding, and not too electrified sounding.

Although the digital has onboard speakers, I always play it through the Roland KC350 keyboard amp (outstanding low bass smile ). I rarely use headphones, because I live far enough away from all my neighbors as to not disturb them, regardless of volume.

Plus, I love all the different drum-beats the digital has, and lots of them.

So, yea, plenty of reasons to have both... smile

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Following a late second marriage, I find myself with something of a surfeit of pianos. Happily we have enough space. My wife has an Avantgrand N3 which lives in the dining room and I have my Sauter Alpha 160 in the salon, along with my old Sauter upright which I just can't bear to sell. She likes the Avantgrand because she can practice with headphones or play quietly and rarely uses the Sauter, I use both but more often the Sauter. I can't abide playing with headphones (or quietly, or transposed) so the Yamaha doesn't really offer me anything that the Sauter doesn't and bluntly the Sauter is (for me) just so much more rewarding to play.

I am under no illusions however. I know perfectly well that if we ever move to a smaller house it will be the Sauter that has to go.

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I have a Kawai ES110 with all the trimmings on one side of music room and Yamaha U 1 in the other inter faced with the other side via AKG Mikes
Rarely touch digital —once I experienced a real piano(I am a retired guitarist —64 years) , I realized it’s the strings-real strings -the tactile sensations alone does it for me.
Occasionally I have to be quiet or do some work on digital —my chops have no problem in adjusting—digital feels lighter action. My Yamaha U 1 not heavy action either-medium-My aunts Steinway is another matter.
My digital rig is a luxury but it is portable.. sounds nice,
BUT unless you live where you can’t play it, I’d go with the acoustic.

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Originally Posted by drewhpianoman
... am wondering why some/many of you own both a DP and acoustic. ... What value do you find in owning both? Recording/composing? Curious to know if I should maybe rethink selling it.

I like having pianos and keyboards strewn all over the house. It's the opposite of out of sight, out of mind. If the instruments are always in-sight and in-mind, it's easy to find any old excuse to sit down and play.

My Roland FP-30 gets the most use, because it's next to my bed. Closely followed by my Casio CT-S1, because it's in the kitchen. Both are strategically placed to sidetrack me whoever I enter/leave of the house! I also have a beautiful Kawai K800 in the living room and beat up old Steingraeber upright in the family room; so I have a "piano reminder", not matter what room I'm in.


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