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Hi,

Has anyone purchased (or was involved in a purchase for an institution) a Top-tier Concert grand (Steinway D, Bosendorfer 280VC, Fazio F278 or C. Bechstein D-282) in USA recently? If so, and you wouldn't mind discussing your purchase experience (including negotiations), could you please let me know? I would like to discuss your experience in PM or in the thread.

Thank you very much!

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bump if anyone can help. Thanks.


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Does this include second hand units?


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Sure, new or used.

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What is there to say? I wanted a piano for in the ballroom. For a couple of reasons I identified that it needed to be a 9' or very close. I contacted a dealer who had taken care of me previously. He had a recently rebuilt Bluthner model 1. It fitted my needs perfectly. We agreed terms and I bought it.


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I think there was a fairly recent thread (within one year) on this forum that a forum member, who is a Steinway Artist, is getting a new Steinway D. For some reason the search function cannot locate this thread (maybe I used the wrong term). You should be able to find it if going back *several* pages... The only caveat that I could think of is that, since he is a Steinway Artist, he was looking at only Steinways, not other brands.


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Originally Posted by Sgisela

Thanks for locating it!


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Hello Osho,

I have helped a fair number of institutions and surprisingly, many more private homes, choose a concert grand piano.

An instrument like this can awaken your musical aspirations in a way very few other instruments will. When well prepared, a concert grand can rattle your windows with a FFF, while allowing you to control a pppp that is a near whisper. But you might be aware of that already.

Some dealers shy away from large instruments. They absorb lots of capital and generally do not sell as quickly as smaller pianos. Pricewise, concert grands can go all over the map. For instance, I currently have 2 really beautiful concert grand pianos for under 60k, a Steinway D, a Yamaha CFIII, and a Matchless Cunningham. (I also have concert grands for much more than that as well). As far as negotiations, I think it depends on the piano, the dealer, and you. I don't have any firm advice on that count, but I am happy to add my 2 cents as this thread develops.

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Originally Posted by PhilipInChina
What is there to say? I wanted a piano for in the ballroom. For a couple of reasons I identified that it needed to be a 9' or very close. I contacted a dealer who had taken care of me previously. He had a recently rebuilt Bluthner model 1. It fitted my needs perfectly. We agreed terms and I bought it.
Yeah I once thought of purchasing a concert grand for my ballroom as well but since my ballroom could only accommodate one couple doing line dancing or a single person break dancing I just thought it wouldn’t be feasible.


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It depends on the buyer. A high-visibility artist or organization, and/or someone with an excellent credit rating will treat the purchase, and will be treated differently from someone who just wants a piano for their home or small organization. The former will likely want to travel to where the greatest choice is, while the latter will see what is available locally. There may be more leeway on the prices for the former, and more extras may be offered.

As always, I advise that the technician is at least as important as the piano, and a good one is harder to find.


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I have just read the title of the thread. I need to mention that I am not in USA.


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Line dancing is forbidden in my ballroom (but only because I can't ever remember the steps blush )!


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Originally Posted by Osho
Has anyone purchased (or was involved in a purchase for an institution) a Top-tier Concert grand (Steinway D, Bosendorfer 280VC, Fazio F278 or C. Bechstein D-282) in USA recently? If so, and you wouldn't mind discussing your purchase experience (including negotiations), could you please let me know?

Not in the USA - but in Europe. My advice would be go and listen a lot, take 6 months to a year so you are able to travel places.

See here
http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthre...fazioli-f278-bosendorfer-280vc-or-d.html

DM me if you think this is still relevant. A lot of good pointers have been given above. I would not characterize concert grands as a liquid market - it is rather a highly specialized market for unique objects. That also means that past experiences give no guarantee for the future, just first ideas. That makes it fun too ;-)


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Thank you all for your responses. Very helpful in my search. Unfortunately, I was away from forums for some time - so couldn't post earlier - but I appreciate all the responses. Thanks.


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I recommend thoroughly checking out every instrument you can find locally or within a short drive. If that doesn’t work, use a broker. You must inform the broker exactly what you require and your max budget.


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