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Yamaha silent piano SC2,SH2 and trans-acoustic piano production discontinued in Japan.
Will it be released as a new model,
or will it be impossible to produce due to a shortage of semiconductors?
Which one?

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Very interesting. Where did you come across this information? Any links?

Most probably they will upgrade to the latest sound engine you find in the latest CLP-models 700-series. They will not stop making silent pianos.
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It does look like Yamaha will be upgrading the lineup; take that, Steinway!

Incidentally, the TransAcoustic is my dream piano; yes, I will settle for an AvantGrand, but if luck comes a’ knocking on my door (fingers crossed, I hit the lottery), it will be a TransAcoustic for me!

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It does look like Yamaha will be upgrading the lineup; take that, Steinway!

What is your problem with Steinway & Sons?


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I have no issues with his sons; it’s Steinway that rubs me the wrong way!

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Originally Posted by Pete14
I have no issues with his sons; it’s Steinway that rubs me the wrong way!

Ah, you don't like piano. I see.


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Originally Posted by Pete14
I have no issues with his sons; it’s Steinway that rubs me the wrong way!

Oh so it's more political than the piano itself. I loved most all the Steinway grands I've performed on. Many people dislike Richard Strauss for his politics and won't listen to his music.


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I love Richard Strauss’ music. I wasn’t aware that he was involved in politics. Not that it will change my love for his music but what did he do wrong?


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Very interesting… I’m looking to upgrade to a Yamaha grand with SH2 so this is fantastic news to me 😁

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I love Richard Strauss’ music. I wasn’t aware that he was involved in politics. Not that it will change my love for his music but what did he do wrong?

There has been a persistent claim that he was some kind of Nazi or Nazi sympathiser. I think that has been comprehensively examined and convincingly de-bunked in more recent times. The Nazis liked him. But he had no time for them. So you can enjoy Strauss with a clear conscience.

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I have no issues with his sons; it’s Steinway that rubs me the wrong way!

Oh so it's more political than the piano itself. I loved most all the Steinway grands I've performed on.

The best piano I ever played was a Steinway Model B grand piano in a showroom. It was so well prepared, that it literally represented the meaning of "perfection". If I had 150 grand to spare I would have bought it on the spot.


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I love Richard Strauss’ music. I wasn’t aware that he was involved in politics. Not that it will change my love for his music but what did he do wrong?

There has been a persistent claim that he was some kind of Nazi or Nazi sympathiser. I think that has been comprehensively examined and convincingly de-bunked in more recent times. The Nazis liked him. But he had no time for them. So you can enjoy Strauss with a clear conscience.

I see, thanks. I’ve been researching some rather obscure composers and conductors recently and found out that some of them suffered by being unnecessarily punished for their alleged support for Nazism. For instance, Joseph Marx (I’ve recorded a wonderful piano prelude on my NU1X, can be seen on YouTube), Hans Pfitzner, Franz Schmidt - all of them wonderful composers who would certainly be more famous if they weren’t thrown into a forced obscurity. Then the conductor Oswald Kabasta was dismissed from Munich Philharmonic and was not allowed to conduct and devastated he committed suicide. One of the most famous Chopin interpreters (IMO he is the best one) Alfred Cortot “was found guilty by a French government panel of collaboration with the enemy and was suspended from performing for a year”. And so on, and so on. What Nazism did to humanity was unforgivable and monstrous but ruining the career and life of artists simply because they (may) have been sympathetic to a political party and certainly didn’t know, let alone participate, in the monstrosities, is also very wrong IMO. Unfortunately it reminds me of the Cancel-culture of today 😕

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The Nazi issues are interesting because it's pretty much not a matter within living memory anymore. So I think it's going to become easier to minimise the scale of the horror and the atrocities they committed.

I agree about cancel culture. What we, collectively, seem unable to do is accept that good people can do bad things. And bad people can do good things. But the good gets disregarded when a bad thing is done. It's such an intellectually stunted view of human beings. It's happening with all these old statues of people getting taken down - aren't we intelligent and mature enough as a species to understand and learn? There's a large and very vocal movement of people now in Western culture that embraces diversity in all things, except diversity of opinion apparently. Quite depressing. Anyway, we are breaking the Forum's rules so back to pianos!

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Originally Posted by CyberGene
but ruining the career and life of artists simply because they (may) have been sympathetic to a political party and certainly didn’t know, let alone participate, in the monstrosities, is also very wrong IMO. Unfortunately it reminds me of the Cancel-culture of today 😕

An artist has the choice of aligning with people in power to get punished later or not aligning with people in power to get canceled and posthumously receive an award for it later. That has been the case through all of mankind's history even before world wars with mass murdering civilians were a thing.

That means we haven't really progressed beyond the court jester falling out of the king's favor and getting their head chopped off as a consequence.


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I have no issues with his sons; it’s Steinway that rubs me the wrong way!
And again Pete gets a post of the week award.

Your good natured nonsense is so needed in this forum...

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So, from product discontinuation (via nazis, of course) we got to cancel culture.

Maybe there's a connection somewhere -- with old statues of people being discontinued.

Probably in a moment this topic becomes discontinued by a moderator, so quickly write what you've got to add on the topic of nazis and cancel culture. 😉

(Or don't. I don't mean to encourage.)

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When someone tries to cancel the cancel culture in times of cancel culture, “they” get canceled. Quite a mouthful, yeah!


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And should we be open minded about close minded people?

That's a real Conandrum.

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The Swedish Yamaha site seems updated. They have removed the 2 in SH2 and now just write SH after every product name.

And there is a picture of the new SH module. Good times ☺️

https://se.yamaha.com/sv/products/musical_instruments/pianos/silent_piano/sh/index.html

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