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According to this playlist
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_NUYmjdb-G9UWQobrr8M7k80T7gFEvWv

Op. 10/1 "Waterfall"
Op. 10/2 "Chromatique"
Op. 10/3 "Tristesse"
Op. 10/4 "Torrent"
Op. 10/5 "Black keys"
Op. 10/6 "Lament"
Op. 10/7 "Toccata"
Op. 10/8 "Sunshine"
Op. 10/9
Op. 10/10
Op. 10/11 "Arpeggio"
Op. 10/12 "Revolutionary"
Op. 25/1 "Harp Study"
Op. 25/2 "The Bees"
Op. 25/3 "The Horseman"
Op. 25/4 "Paganini"
Op. 25/5 "Wrong Note"
Op. 25/6 "Thirds"
Op. 25/7 "Cello"
Op. 25/8 "Sixths"
Op. 25/9 "Butterfly Wings"
Op. 25/10 "Octave"
Op. 25/11 "Winter Wind"
Op. 25/12 "Ocean"


What?! Op. 10 nos 9-10 don't get nicknames? This is an outrage!! mad

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I guess the Nouvelles Etudes are ostracized too (for better or worse).

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Originally Posted by cygnusdei
What?! Op. 10 nos 9-10 don't get nicknames? This is an outrage!! mad
There can only be one twosome worthy of such elevated status.

Tweedledee and Tweedledum.


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It must be an Anglo-saxon thing, because apart from a few like the farewell or revolutionary, none of the others are frequently used in other countries.

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Originally Posted by Sidokar
It must be an Anglo-saxon thing, because apart from a few like the farewell or revolutionary, none of the others are frequently used in other countries.


Just because all of these nicknames are listed in a YouTube channel doesn’t mean they are commonly used.


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Incidentally, Op.25/1 is the Aeolian Harp, but I guess Anglo-Saxons can't pronounce "Aeolian", not to mention don't know what it means.......

And it is one of only two Chopin études whose nickname is valid, because Schumann named it thus.


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I guess Thirds, Sixth, Octaves are not really fanciful but The Bees, Sunshine, The Horseman? Oh my!

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Originally Posted by bennevis
Incidentally, Op.25/1 is the Aeolian Harp, but I guess Anglo-Saxons can't pronounce "Aeolian", not to mention don't know what it means.......

And it is one of only two Chopin études whose nickname is valid, because Schumann named it thus.


Aeolian harp was a boxed musical instrument: strings and soundboard. Placed in window to be played by the wind

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeolian_harp


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I think the following names are common:

Waterfall, Chromatic, Tristesse, Black Key, Revolutionary, Aeolian Harp, Thirds, Sixths, Octave, Butterfly, and Winter Wind.

If someone used one of those names before I read this thread, I would have known correctly which Etude was being referenced. Generally, I have not previously heard the other nicknames, maybe Torrent once or twice.

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Originally Posted by Sweelinck
I think the following names are common:

Waterfall, Chromatic, Tristesse, Black Key, Revolutionary, Aeolian Harp, Thirds, Sixths, Octave, Butterfly, and Winter Wind.
Actually this is the first time I've heard of 'Waterfall' (do waterfalls go up and down like that? ha )

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Originally Posted by Sweelinck
I think the following names are common:

Waterfall, Chromatic, Tristesse, Black Key, Revolutionary, Aeolian Harp, Thirds, Sixths, Octave, Butterfly, and Winter Wind.

If someone used one of those names before I read this thread, I would have known correctly which Etude was being referenced. Generally, I have not previously heard the other nicknames, maybe Torrent once or twice.
I think Wrong Note and Ocean are also common.

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"Ocean" ought to be called "Surrender, or else!"

Maybe "... or else I'll write another 10 etudes! Mwa ha ha ha!"


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Nickname-less notwithstanding, I find Op. 10 no. 9 to be one of the more poetic ones, don't you? Rather than a 'character piece' (that is, if Chopin at all had that in mind with the other etudes), it feels like with this one there is a narrative, there is something unfolding. The ending to me has a Scarbo-like quality of something vanishing into thin air (a sprite?)

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The only nickname I had ever heard before I came the the US was Revolutionary and use of it was frowned upon because it's not Chopin's, just like all the others. I find all of the names extremely irritating and hate them with an intensity I cannot explain.


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Arthur Friedheim called the op.10/1 etude:'Runaway Chorale', quite original and to the point.


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and in the old not so political correct days in France, op.10/2 used to be called:'La négresse', I don't agree, but there you have it.


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Originally Posted by SiFi
[...] I find all of the names extremely irritating and hate them with an intensity I cannot explain.

Ditto!

Cheers!

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The first time I heard any of these names (except the Revolutionary) was when I came here to PW. I still don't know which one people are talking about most of the time. Irritating? Definitely.


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The majority of these names are either obvious or lame (i.e., uninspiring, dull and unoriginal).


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Originally Posted by SiFi
I find all of the names extremely irritating and hate them with an intensity I cannot explain.
I don't understand this hate. The purpose of the names is for communication. I don't necessarily remember the opus numbers by heart but if someone mentions the Winter Wind Etude I know immediately which one they are talking about. At least the common nicknames are totally fine by me.

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