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What is the most difficult piece among these?
Please do consider ranking them [musically/technically/both].
1) "Liszt- Un Sospiro"
2) "Rachmaninoff- Moment Musicaux Op 16 No.4"
3) "Chopin- Heroic Polonaise Op 53"
I love all of these pieces and all of them are completely different from each other.
I also plan to learn them. Which of them should I be approaching first and which last?
Any piece of advice would be greatly appreciated
Thank you!
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Approach in order (musically and technically)
1) Chopin
2) Liszt
3) Rachmaninoff
Good luck.
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Thanks a lot for your advice I have already started working on Rachmaninoff 
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Thanks a lot for your advice I have already started working on Rachmaninoff Please let us know how it goes!
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Thanks a lot for your advice I have already started working on Rachmaninoff Please let us know how it goes! Here is an update: OP asked if their $500 digital piano Yamaha P-45 is up to the task of mastering Rachmaninoff's difficult virtuoso piece: http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthre...g-on-a-lower-end-digital-piano-good.htmlI currently own a Yamaha P-45 (four years old) and I'm currently working on Rachmaninoff's moment musicaux, Chopin's polonaise, and some Liszt etudes...
Do you think this piano meets the requirements?
Lately, I have been feeling that this piano is not performing up to the mark (not receiving the right sound and touch response that I expect).
I've worked on different ways to improvise my technique, but I still don't see a change.
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can I just say that I don't value this question very much, or at all? I believe I just did, well, there you are.
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I would just add that if the OP is at a technical level to work on any of these pieces, s/he should be able to determine just by a few read-throughs which one would be the easiest one to start with. Each of us has different technical challenges which usually means that relative/comparative difficulties are individual.
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What is the most difficult piece among these?
Please do consider ranking them [musically/technically/both].
1) "Liszt- Un Sospiro"
2) "Rachmaninoff- Moment Musicaux Op 16 No.4"
3) "Chopin- Heroic Polonaise Op 53"
I love all of these pieces and all of them are completely different from each other.
I also plan to learn them. Which of them should I be approaching first and which last?
Any piece of advice would be greatly appreciated
Thank you! With respect to Chopin Polonaises Op 53 or 44, I would suggest that you should already be able to play one of the earlier Polonaises well, such as Op 40 #1 in A, before attempting Op 44 or 53. I have not played Rachmaninov 16/4 (and have no plans to try to learn it) so I'm hesitant to suggest a preparatory piece, but the Chopin Prelude in G, Op 28 #3 has a fast left hand figuration with simple melody in the right hand. I'm guessing that this prelude, which is by no means easy, will be less difficult than Rachmaninov 16/4, and a good milestone along the way of developing the technique for 16/4. The Chopin Etude 10/12 is also a good left hand workout.
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What is the most difficult piece among these?
Please do consider ranking them [musically/technically/both].
1) "Liszt- Un Sospiro"
2) "Rachmaninoff- Moment Musicaux Op 16 No.4"
3) "Chopin- Heroic Polonaise Op 53"
I love all of these pieces and all of them are completely different from each other.
I also plan to learn them. Which of them should I be approaching first and which last?
Any piece of advice would be greatly appreciated
Thank you! With respect to Chopin Polonaises Op 53 or 44, I would suggest that you should already be able to play one of the earlier Polonaises well, such as Op 40 #1 in A, before attempting Op 44 or 53. Do you have any evidence that the OP hasn't played those pieces or other Chopin works of similar difficulty?
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What is the most difficult piece among these?
Please do consider ranking them [musically/technically/both].
1) "Liszt- Un Sospiro"
2) "Rachmaninoff- Moment Musicaux Op 16 No.4"
3) "Chopin- Heroic Polonaise Op 53"
I love all of these pieces and all of them are completely different from each other.
I also plan to learn them. Which of them should I be approaching first and which last?
Any piece of advice would be greatly appreciated
Thank you! With respect to Chopin Polonaises Op 53 or 44, I would suggest that you should already be able to play one of the earlier Polonaises well, such as Op 40 #1 in A, before attempting Op 44 or 53. Do you have any evidence that the OP hasn't played those pieces or other Chopin works of similar difficulty? We have no evidence of what he had played, but we know he almost immediately chose the Rach after he received one comment
"Music, rich, full of feeling, not soulless, is like a crystal on which the sun falls and brings forth from it a whole rainbow" - F. Chopin
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What is the most difficult piece among these?
Please do consider ranking them [musically/technically/both].
1) "Liszt- Un Sospiro"
2) "Rachmaninoff- Moment Musicaux Op 16 No.4"
3) "Chopin- Heroic Polonaise Op 53"
I love all of these pieces and all of them are completely different from each other.
I also plan to learn them. Which of them should I be approaching first and which last?
Any piece of advice would be greatly appreciated
Thank you! With respect to Chopin Polonaises Op 53 or 44, I would suggest that you should already be able to play one of the earlier Polonaises well, such as Op 40 #1 in A, before attempting Op 44 or 53. Do you have any evidence that the OP hasn't played those pieces or other Chopin works of similar difficulty? We have no evidence of what he had played, but we know he almost immediately chose the Rach after he received one comment No, we know when he posted that he had started the Rach but we don't know when had started it. But even if we knew he started learning the Rach after he received one comment, I don't think that's relevant to my question.
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What is the most difficult piece among these?
Please do consider ranking them [musically/technically/both].
1) "Liszt- Un Sospiro"
2) "Rachmaninoff- Moment Musicaux Op 16 No.4"
3) "Chopin- Heroic Polonaise Op 53"
I love all of these pieces and all of them are completely different from each other.
I also plan to learn them. Which of them should I be approaching first and which last?
Any piece of advice would be greatly appreciated
Thank you! With respect to Chopin Polonaises Op 53 or 44, I would suggest that you should already be able to play one of the earlier Polonaises well, such as Op 40 #1 in A, before attempting Op 44 or 53. Do you have any evidence that the OP hasn't played those pieces or other Chopin works of similar difficulty? The OP stated: "Any piece of advice would be greatly appreciated"
Repertoire interests: early Baroque through early Romantic eras.
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I would just add that if the OP is at a technical level to work on any of these pieces, s/he should be able to determine just by a few read-throughs which one would be the easiest one to start with. That's assuming that the OP is actually able to read music.
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