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#3145238 08/11/21 10:26 AM
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Hi Guys.
I'm a 47 years old mad guy that decided that it was time to learn how to play the piano.
Something I will learn until I'm 60! Don't know how much, but something I will....
I began buying a very old german piano, that was almost completely rebuilt but now I really feel that I need something better, although I will still buy an used piano because the budget does not stretch.
My option right now are just two:

- Yamaha U1 certified by Yamaha technicians from a professional store 25-30 years old. Used with 7 years warranty. 4.000€
- Kawai K300 from a individual guy, that bought it for his son, but since he does not use it that much, he pretends to sell it. 4 years old. 3500€ (it's a friend of a friend and it's been told that it's in perfect conditions)

My kind of music is mainly Einaudi, Tiersen, Dirk Maassen, Pop Covers. Which piano would you guys recommend for that kind of music? I do not intend at all to play Chopin, Liszt, Beethoven or jazz...
I do indeed like very much all kind of minimalistic piano music.

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If the K300 is (also presumably) in good condition and passes a tech inspection, then you have to decide yourself by playing them and listening, as they are both good but quite different.

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I have yamaha U7, that I bought in the mid 70's.
Personally, I think it sounds as good as ever.
But listening and comparing is likely the best way to go.


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I prefer Yamahas - I always thought the Kawai actions were too heavy. But it is an old piano - the 7 year warranty sort of helps with that - but that is typical of a dealership. They do not think anything will go wrong with it, so the warranty costs them nothing. And they are probably right, the U1 is a very reliable piano.

What about moving costs? Does the dealer price include delivery?

You really need to go play them and pick the one that feels and sounds best to you.

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Originally Posted by Sam S
I prefer Yamahas - I always thought the Kawai actions were too heavy. But it is an old piano - the 7 year warranty sort of helps with that - but that is typical of a dealership. They do not think anything will go wrong with it, so the warranty costs them nothing. And they are probably right, the U1 is a very reliable piano.

What about moving costs? Does the dealer price include delivery?

You really need to go play them and pick the one that feels and sounds best to you.

Sam

Yes, both prices are final and include delivery costs. I believe the Kawai is also still in warranty time as it's only 4 years old.
I will play them both but I was trying to get some thoughts from already experienced guys who may like playing Einaudi or Yann Tiersen and what do they feel about the U1 or the K300

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Choose the one that sounds the best to you. Even if you can't play yet just fiddle around to hear what it sounds like.

I don't know about the Kawai but I played a U1 at a store once and was amazed at how good it sounded.

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Get the piano that you like!

There's no reason to stop at 60!


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My first acoustic piano was a used Yamaha U1 and it was just a great instrument! I have also owned a Baldwin upright and a Petrol upright, and the U1 was a better instrument than either of those by far. My current piano is a Yamaha as well, so I'm obviously Yamaha-biased!

Separate from that, I don't think there's a particular type of piano that is better for Einaudi or Tiersen... What you want, whether you're playing classical or contemporary, is a good quality upright in working order that holds its tune. The Yamaha or the Kawai should do that for you. And I say that as someone who plays a lot of Einaudi and that kind of contemporary piano music.

Good luck!


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Originally Posted by malkin
Get the piano that you like!

There's no reason to stop at 60!

Well...the 60 number was just a sarcastic quote...
I hope I can play until the end of my days...playing the piano even that what I do nowadays is nothing similar to "playing piano" just takes me into a special place and I just want to improve my skills so I can "travel" better and better...
Regarding everyone's thoughts...I will try to play both pianos although I have to say that I have been listening to a lot of Youtube videos with keywords as "Yamaha U1 and Einaudi" or such as that...and I'm kind of disappointed with the brightness of the Yamaha when listening to some favorite pieces that I want to learn such as Experience or Nuvole Bianche.
The sound from Kawai seems more "rounded"...
One doubt I have is I do enjoy to have the ability to give "expressiveness" to some notes and U1, being a typical classic piano will ensure that I will always have that...I don't know if Kawai with those carbon parts will give that same touch...
It seems obvious I really am not a pianist, doesn't it?

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Brand new pianos generally have a brighter sound but this can be adjusted to a certain degree by your technician. It's called voicing the hammers I believe. Also, the sound will be different in a recording than in person especially uprights, which often come out thinner than in reality. Even the same piano in a different room will sound different. Obviously, you can't transport your piano to your home to hear how it sounds but you really have to at least check it out in person.

But in the end choose the one that sounds best to you. Everyone has different tastes and I think you should choose the piano which you'll enjoy playing (and hearing) the most.

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Originally Posted by ShiroKuro
I have also owned ... a Petrol upright
Musta been a gas!

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Originally Posted by ShiroKuro
I have also owned ... a Petrol upright
Musta been a gas!

grin grin grin

That darn autocorrect, gets me every time!

That should have been Petrof.

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I generally prefer Yamaha over Kawai but in this case I would recommend the Kawai. Much newer from a private home and original owner whose family rarely played it.


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Well...been reading a lot about U3 and there are several nowadays certified by Yamaha from the 80's in the 4.000€... would it be a better choise?


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