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Hi everyone, some of you may remember that I was working on Rach 1 back in 2016...well now I finally got around to making a video of the 3rd movement with VST accompaniment. I ended up hiring someone through vi-control.net who did a really great job with the busier sections, and with a lot of massaging my piano part doesn't sound too bad either :P

The simpler parts I created with a Roland RD700NX but it was really quite a hassle.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLq2Iv7NGtT0XO_YJ4fCoEIssa1HQfyMe0


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As someone who has messed around with this stuff myself and just found it to be an incredible, monumental amount of work, I want to congratulate you on a job well done.

It is my dream to do Rachmaninoff's 2nd concerto this way, but when I think of the amount of work involved in making expressive orchestra part with virtual instruments it just overwhelms me. But I will do it one day....just an insane investment in time.

It is really frustrating to me that a lot of the higher end virtual instruments like the East-West libraries are not well suited for live piano playing for the string parts. In other words, they have separate tracks for stuff like pizzicato and different bowings, which makes it take 10 times longer to record. I really haven't found anything suitable for entering instrumental parts by playing as opposed to notating it.

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Thanks for the kind words. For Rach2 I would just download the Music Minus One recording and edit the parts you're not happy with (I listened and admittedly, the orchestra part wasn't done very well).

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Wow this was very good. Thanks for sharing.
You must have really put so much effort and time to achieve this.
I only wished you had a nicer sounding piano. What is this piano? It sounds very different.

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Found it. It is an experimental piano design.

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I had voiced the hammers to exactly where I wanted them, but the tuner I hired decided to go file the hammers without my permission which made it brighter than I wanted...his tuning was also atrocious and I had to redo it, and may or may not have done a great job. I personally can't really tell if an instrument is in tune or not though.

I personally think it sounds okay. It's basically a brightened Steingraeber in the upper registers. I prefer the Bosendorfer or Fazioli sound but I get a bit more sustain, bass, and power out of this one compared to a F212.

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Originally Posted by trigalg693
For Rach2 I would just download the Music Minus One recording and edit the parts you're not happy with (I listened and admittedly, the orchestra part wasn't done very well).

Sorry you didn't like my orchestra. I thought it was pretty good apart from the clarinet solo in the 2nd movement, which I agree was a big let-down (I have got much better clarinets now!) I have actually got a copy of the original MMO tracks with the Stuttgart orchestra which aren't generally available. My version was commissioned because of widespread complaints about wandering tempo issues in the Stuttgart version. I have written software which irons this out and indeed if anybody wants to send me a (rough) recording of the piano part at the tempo they want to play, I can make a copy of the Stuttgart Orchestra version which will fit it perfectly.

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Well, don't all speak at once.


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