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Hi All,

I cannot decide between the KDP120, YDP-164 but wanted to test the waters here to see what people recommended at 2000 AUD or under. If there was a substantial increase in quality for a little bit more, please throw it in.

I generally want to buy something that I can learn properly on and own for a few years without feeling the need to upgrade. The KDP in Australia is about $300 cheaper than the YDP-164. I have read more positive things about the KDP120 but noticed a few knocks on their key action.


Any advice is appreciated.

Thank you.

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Hello,

@Al-Fish, This video compares the KDP120 with the YDP-144 (so not -164), yet in case it may help you think, here it is.

And of course, always play your short-listed instruments, preferably multiple times, before buying to find out first hand which one clicks with you.

Cheers and happy further research,

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If you have the 164 in mind, ignore the 144. The difference is night and day.
The former has a GH-derived action ... not great, but decent.
The latter has the GHS action ... yuckkkkkkk!

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With around $2K AUD to spend, I would recommend the Yamaha P515 for its action. Easily the best action you can get for around $2K, since its their newest wooden action for digitals (NWX action). It may be hard to find them stock since it is a fairly popular model here and tends to fly off the shelves quickly.

The other 2 I would consider are the Kawai ES920 (or the cabinet version with the same action - Kawai CN29, but its about 200-300 more expensive) and the Roland FP60/FP60X (or the cabinet version with the same action - Roland F701). I would say all these choices have far better actions than the KDP120 and YDP-164, based on my playing experiences.

Be sure to negotiate the prices down. Most sellers/stores should be happy to. Good luck!


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There are some good videos on entry level digital piano features by an Australian store called "Better Music" (YouTube).

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Unless having the cabinet is important to you for aesthetic reasons, I'd consider a slab DP (that you can rest on top of a stand that you purchase separately or even the official Yamaha stand for it, which looks pretty nice) like the Yamaha P515. The action will be much better than the YDP. In the US, the P515 sells for US$ 1500, so it should be within your budget in Australia. Look up some videos of the P515.


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I agree with Talao. The P515 is a better choice.


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