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With all due respect, unless the music isn't opening correctly on my desktop, I'd suggest binning this piece and find music that is properly written. It looks confusing to an experienced eye, let a lone a beginner's.

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Originally Posted by ManishP
... but always end up playing both chord and melody together, rather than moving my left hand to Bb slightly before RH play. And of course, I do want to build skill of moving faster to Bb, but it is not happening. I guess it just needs more practice?

No .... that is not what it needs.

From previous posts by you I see a pattern of questions indicating you are trying to play various tunes or pieces of tunes without building a base of piano playing skills.

You need to start with a method book and learn to play simple tunes and play them exactly on time and with the basic rhythms presented on each tune.

You haven't done this.

You have skipped through material without every gaining mastery of the skills along the way.

That won't work and you are wasting your time with that approach.

You say teachers are not working out.

Well, that might be because you are too impatient and want to move through things too fast.

I would suggest you try a teacher and make the decision to do what the teacher tells you to do to the best of your ability until you can actually do it.

Don't supplement it with other things you find here and there.

Just do the things your teacher picks out or you and your teacher pick out together.

That is your ticket to success.

Good Luck


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I don't understand the others here. Why is this piece too hard for a beginner? And what is so confusing about it? It looks fairly straightforward to me, at least the section the OP has linked.

OP -- Practice the left hand alone, and count while you play: 123-123-12. That is the recurring rhythm, dotted quaver, dotted quaver, quaver. Once you have that down, figure out the melody relative to the chords. Voila.

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This is a pretty standard modern beat and the chords don't need much legato.

Listen to the rhythm on the Van Morrison (Them) cover of Dylan's It's All over Now, Baby Blue.



Practise only the RH notes that occur with the LH chords and treat the whole as four-note chords. Add the missing RH notes when you've got the rhythm but don't try to be too mathematical in their placement. The rhythm can use a little lilt. You might even sing the tune first while you're playing.

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I attempted moving LH to Bb a bit before playing RH, and to an extent I have been successful. I also practice various exercises along with playing music pieces I like - scales, left hand - right hand together, separately, and others.


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Originally Posted by ranjit
I don't understand the others here. Why is this piece too hard for a beginner? And what is so confusing about it? It looks fairly straightforward to me, at least the section the OP has linked.

OP -- Practice the left hand alone, and count while you play: 123-123-12. That is the recurring rhythm, dotted quaver, dotted quaver, quaver. Once you have that down, figure out the melody relative to the chords. Voila.
Except that this is completely wrong.

The time signature is 4/4. You have to feel it that way (1 2 3 4, strong weak medium weak). You can't just count any way you like. The second chord comes on the "and" of the second beat and it's supposed to be written with a tied note to the third beat (and it's supposed to be felt that way).

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Except that this is completely wrong.

The time signature is 4/4. You have to feel it that way (1 2 3 4, strong weak medium weak). You can't just count any way you like. The second chord comes on the "and" of the second beat and it's supposed to be written with a tied note to the third beat (and it's supposed to be felt that way).
How are you so sure? Is it just textbook knowledge of time signatures, or are you talking about it in the context of the actual arrangement (supposedly in a pop style)?

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Except that this is completely wrong.

The time signature is 4/4. You have to feel it that way (1 2 3 4, strong weak medium weak). You can't just count any way you like. The second chord comes on the "and" of the second beat and it's supposed to be written with a tied note to the third beat (and it's supposed to be felt that way).
How are you so sure? Is it just textbook knowledge of time signatures, or are you talking about it in the context of the actual arrangement (supposedly in a pop style)?

The OP confirmed it was in 4/4 and, like I mentioned earlier, it's a popular bossa-type rhythmic pattern. That said the arrangement has typos and is not a professional transcription - which is why I'd discard it.

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