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#3123397 05/31/21 10:42 PM
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Here's a modular travel piano that I came across today. Looks like a similar concept to Piano de Voyage. Unfortunately, there's not many details regarding the technology on the website.

https://pocketpiano.com/

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They tell us all we need to know:

"Touch and sensitivity are similar to a traditional piano.
You will not notice the difference."


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Interesting magnetic modules & backpack. It was designed in Barcelona by Josep Berguedà etal. and seems to run BLE midi to a mobile phone app; one would connect the headphones or speaker to the phone.

The action looks ultraportable so we won't see ultimate graded hammers.
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Looks cool!


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I just ordered one so I will update you when I receive it. I’ve been looking for something like this for the road. I’ve tried the folding one (not rollable)… no midi out and it sucks. This is the first I’ve seen that looks to have great engineering.

I agree with Mac. Probably will be a bit different than my C6 action! (But that is a bit too big to bring on carry-on🤣)

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In the context of typical discussions here concerning hybrids, the action of this Pocket Piano must surely be lame. But the sound might be decent.

So if you're out and about ... on the go ... and you simply must have a piano, I suppose this could be a good choice. Better than no piano, right?

I wonder ... how much does it weigh and how much does it cost?

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I wonder ... how much does it weigh and how much does it cost?
€847,00 (€700,00 + IVA)
"Currently, PocketPiano only works with iPhone, iPad and Apple computers. Sorry for the inconvenience."

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Fortunately the webpages do have 3 languages: Spanish, Catalan & English. The original design probably came from Spain.

Based on the picture, looks like the keyboard is connected together 1 octave at a time except for the 1st piece with the product name "Pocket Piano" on the side.

2 things that are a bit suspicious: the height of the keys may be lower than standard piano keys but still high enough to feel like a piano. Not going to comment on the touch sensitivity until it is tested at home. There are probably other compromises including the piano sound that may be more like a synthesizer & the foot pedal(s).

I have a Folding Piano 88 from "Carry-on" (MidiPlus). It's what I have at the moment. The keyboard does have 88 keys but the height of the keys is very low and the keys feel like cheap plastic with some plastic ticking noise as you play. The keyboard folds easily into 4 for traveling. Otherwise no touch sensitivity. Definitely have to order the Pocket Piano & Piano de Voyage before saying which is the best.


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Okay ... that's $1037 USD. That's pretty pricy ... but new, low-volume, specialty merchandise generally is generally quite dear, eh?

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Besides something that can be taken apart and put in a travel bag, the price isn't cheap compare to 61 portable keyboards from Casio, Roland & Yamaha with soft-touch keys.

There are probably places that the designers had to cut corners to make the keyboard portable. Have to compare the features point by point including speakers, built-in metronome, sound effects, rhythms, record button, power plug, etc.

From the demo video above can't tell if the keys are touch sensitive. The soundtrack in the background started before the lady started playing so it's made separately. And the piece from the Bach WTC doesn't show any dynamics. The only thing we can say is that the pieces are connected together easily. Definitely needs a table or a solid surface to play, not a portable keyboard stand.

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From the demo video above can't tell if the keys are touch sensitive.
We can read in the specifications at https://pocketpiano.com/en/pocketpiano-one/ that "Key sensitivity: PocketPiano has from 8 to 12 levels of sensitivity so you can play a wide range of key intensities, from a pianissimo to a fortissimo."

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Got my last portable keyboard from a local piano store. I was surprised they carry boxes of the Folding Piano 88. Their other DPs are more playable with weighted keys. At least I can test a few things and have some expectations before buying. The online products you’re relying 100% on the company’s claims.

So far the worst is a rubber roll-up keyboard marketed under the name Piango. Besides having 88 keys, the product videos claim the keys and the sound are close to a real piano. The soundtrack with a piano sound obviously dubbed over the demo video. People who reviewed the keyboard say it is not even close to a piano.

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I wish this Company well, for I love innovation and experimentation.

But for my travel needs (road trip coming up), I'm good with a P45.


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Originally Posted by thepianoplayer416
Got my last portable keyboard from a local piano store. I was surprised they carry boxes of the Folding Piano 88. Their other DPs are more playable with weighted keys. At least I can test a few things and have some expectations before buying. The online products you’re relying 100% on the company’s claims.

So far the worst is a rubber roll-up keyboard marketed under the name Piango. Besides having 88 keys, the product videos claim the keys and the sound are close to a real piano. The soundtrack with a piano sound obviously dubbed over the demo video. People who reviewed the keyboard say it is not even close to a piano.

Piango means "I cry" in Italian (and probably other Latin-based languages, so what were you expecting grin wink

Both pocketpiano and Piano de Voyage looks very interesting, for slightly different reasons. I wish both companies luck, and I may buy one, one day (certainly not now or my wife will kill me since we have too many instruments home at the moment...)

Everybody who gets one, please do let us know here your thoughts when you get it!

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Based on the look of the images and what I read on the companies' webpages, Piano de Voyage (France) has keys roughly the same height as real piano keys. Have to order one to test if the keys have a soft touch since weighted keys add weight to the keyboard. Doesn't make it less portable but carrying it in a luggage for a flight would add weight.

The keys on a Pocket Piano (Spain) is lower than standard piano keys but still considered playable. According to what I read for Piano de Voyage, the components are made in France. There is a good chance Pocket Piano is subcontracted to a factory in China. This means cheaper materials and less quality control. Before the end of the year, hope to acquire both for a test. Will find out which of the 2 cut more corners.

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The keys sound pretty loud, for >$1000 I hope it’s not the computer keyboard type action you find on those Chinese portables..

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Roli’ s Lumi is another portable. I bought the crowd funding version, and received it before the lockdown, so can comment as I haven’t travelled. I plan to get another one. Just want something portable and practice fingering/ phrases…not necessarily to perform.


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Originally Posted by Beansparrow
The keys sound pretty loud
It sure seems that way in the video. Maybe a neoprene rubber mat underneath would reduce the noise.

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Thanks so much for posting this!

I'll be real interested to see what anyone thinks of the actual thing.

It seems promising.

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Originally Posted by Beansparrow


The keys sound pretty loud, for >$1000 I hope it’s not the computer keyboard type action you find on those Chinese portables..

Can hear plastic ticking noise similar my Folding Piano 88. The keyboard is ok for learning but performances no.

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