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@Kalle: It's lucky for you that you have such a short wait for a new piano. Supplies are short and lead times long for most of us.
Your profile doesn't give your location. In these times that's relevant ... because it's quite interesting to know where pianos are available, given that they're not available in many locales.
@Kalle: It's lucky for you that you have such a short wait for a new piano. Supplies are short and lead times long for most of us.
Your profile doesn't give your location. In these times that's relevant ... because it's quite interesting to know where pianos are available, given that they're not available in many locales.
I'm from Finland.
One thing was quite interesting which I'm not sure if it's been discussed in this thread already:
Instead of paying in the shop, I was given an invoice to make the payment directly from my bank account. I asked about that procedure and they explained that Yamaha requires this only for the CLP-785 model (and above I think), but not for the rest of the CLP-700 series because they want to have control over the distribution of it.
One thing was quite interesting which I'm not sure if it's been discussed in this thread already:
Instead of paying in the shop, I was given an invoice to make the payment directly from my bank account. I asked about that procedure and they explained that Yamaha requires this only for the CLP-785 model (and above I think), but not for the rest of the CLP-700 series because they want to have control over the distribution of it.
Hi Kalle, congratulations on your clp 785. Let's see where Finland and The Netherlands stand in the Yamaha food chain. What I gather from the shop owners is that the 785 is sold directly by the 'Yamaha agency' and the shop only gets a fixed premium. That's why all the prices of the 785 are equal here and there is no bargaining. Yamaha indeed controls the distribution and decides for example what shops in a specific region can sell the 785. No idea why this is different for the lower models. They are harder to get at the moment.
Here in Germany many stores have delivery times about few months for yamaha 745-785 and even N1X/NU1X... there are maybe just a few limited exception but Yamaha is here nearly impossible to get in an acceptable time frame (its like buying a car ) .
@Kalle: It's lucky for you that you have such a short wait for a new piano. Supplies are short and lead times long for most of us.
Your profile doesn't give your location. In these times that's relevant ... because it's quite interesting to know where pianos are available, given that they're not available in many locales.
I'm from Finland.
One thing was quite interesting which I'm not sure if it's been discussed in this thread already:
Instead of paying in the shop, I was given an invoice to make the payment directly from my bank account. I asked about that procedure and they explained that Yamaha requires this only for the CLP-785 model (and above I think), but not for the rest of the CLP-700 series because they want to have control over the distribution of it.
Hi, i'm from Belgium, same situation here, bought CLP785 in a shop and payed directly to Yamaha.
I ordered a 785 last Wednesday, it was delivered and setup on Saturday. They had 2 in stock, but this was the only location of about 5-6 shops I tried that had any inventory at all. Most were saying several months. This is in Canada. There were some weird things with the sale - they told me they weren't allowed to list it on the website (as per Yamaha), in-store sales only. All the other models in the CLP line are listed online though. They have a very large/active webshop that I've purchased other items from before. They did finally allow me to order over the phone, but wouldn't take a credit card, said they could only do bank transfer. Overall, it was a positive experience and they were very pleasant to deal with. Just these strange exceptions.
I wish I could bypass the middle man here in Canada. But here you have to deal with shops and Yamaha Canada has simply stopped giving them any information about the availability. They made excuses before. Now they just are completely MIA. I've called around and nobody knows anything. It's a mess.
I bought a new CLP-725 delivered to my house last week. I was lucky to find a store "piano heritage" here in Montreal Canada with stock. I bought Rosewood color. I saw it in-store the yamaha piano's Black, Rosewood and Ebony. The black color was matt and similar to a black ask speakers. The rosewood is semigloss dark black-redish-brown color and the ebony is super shiny black. I preferred the dark rosewood matches well with my home decor. The speakers is not very powerful. I have to set volume close to maximum to have decent sound and sound quality wise it does not impress me. I find my headphone sound much better than the speakers. They had the CLP-735 and CLP-745 in store. I like the keys on the CLP-745 better but for my budget I was able only to buy the CLP-725. The piano is actually for my kids that are 5 and 2 years old. I think the CLP-725 is a good starting piano for them.
I was able only to buy the CLP-725. The piano is actually for my kids that are 5 and 2 years old. I think the CLP-725 is a good starting piano for them.
I bought a new CLP-725 delivered to my house last week. The piano is actually for my kids that are 5 and 2 years old. I think the CLP-725 is a good starting piano for them.
Congratulations! I'm sure your kids will love it. Feel free to post a photo of the instrument in its home habitat. I think you're the first person on this forum to announce delivery of a 725.
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I find them actually essential. They are my trump card against shady shops that repackage digital pianos to sell as new after they have been on the show floor for demonstration.
I know this is uncommon practice. But I feel better having an exemple of how the exact packaging is supposed to be. If I pay new I want new in box.
Not much love for the CLP-765 here? Or the 795 for that matter? I have played for years on a century-old Petrof grand, but I'm afraid it has more or less reached the end of its life. I have been looking into the 765, because I like the fact that the sound comes from the top of the instrument. The upright models all sound a bit muffled to me. Having said that, I think I must also check out the 785, since it is in the same price range as the 765 but offers a better action and more features.
All in all, I'm a bit weary about the change to digital. I'm afraid it may be too clean, too dull, compared to my sweet old Petrof. This weekend I will visit a store that has the Clavinovas.
So. Anyone any experience with the 765? Compared it to the 785? General observations on switching from acoustic to digital? I'm a newby here, am an experienced but limited amateur pianist, and I would love to hear your opinions.
Welcome @Ostinato. Well you are used to a grand, but you say you're also an amateur. So while I would have loved to point you to hybrids (closest to grand feel), maybe you don't need such expensive models. All the "towards top of the line Clavinovas" are good models - I believe you are going to try them out.
Don't be weary about digitals. The instrument and sound set up can be difficult to get right but digitals are NOT inferior to acoustic grands. They're just different. You'll find a lot of testimony to digitals and virtual instruments here in this forum.
A man must love a thing very much if he practices it without any hope of fame or money, but even practice it without any hope of doing it well. Such a man must love the toils of the work more than any other man can love the rewards of it. G. K. Chesterton
In general Yamaha takes their low-end digital console (in this case the 735), puts the guts into a mini-grand cabinet, and calls it the 765. In the end you have their cheapest CLP model at a high price. I would not buy it.
In contrast, they take their high-end digital (in this case the 785), put the guts into a mini-grand cabinet. and call it the 795. This is a much better piano than the 765. But not better than the 785 ... plus you pay a fortune for the mini-grand cabinet.
So if I were you I'd definitely try the 785.
Originally Posted by Ostinato
I have been looking into the 765, because I like the fact that the sound comes from the top of the instrument. The upright models all sound a bit muffled to me. Having said that, I think I must also check out the 785, since it is in the same price range as the 765 but offers a better action and more features.
In general Yamaha takes their low-end digital console (in this case the 735), puts the guts into a mini-grand cabinet, and calls it the 765. In the end you have their cheapest CLP model at a high price. I would not buy it.
In contrast, they take their high-end digital (in this case the 785), put the guts into a mini-grand cabinet. and call it the 795. This is a much better piano than the 765. But not better than the 785 ... plus you pay a fortune for the mini-grand cabinet.
So if I were you I'd definitely try the 785.
Thanks! But the 765 is more than just a 735 in a nicer cabinet, isn't it? It has more than double the number of speakers and power, it has bluetooth. I'm not entirely sure, but I think it also has a better pedal and key action than the 735? What do you think of the speaker placement compared to the uprights?
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