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#3088240 03/01/21 08:07 PM
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This is my first post on this forum, although I have been following it for a couple of years.

I just purchased a new Kawai CA79. Once it was delivered and set up I noticed that the sustain/damper pedal half-pedalling function did not seem to be working. I can hear full sustain or no sustain but no obvious in between levels of sustain. The only setting in the menu for the half-pedal function is to adjust where in the pedal stroke the sustain starts, so that didn’t make any difference.

I have contacted Kawai and they were to set up an in-home service call, but I have not heard anything from them in over 3 weeks.

I have done a search of this forum but have not found any posts related to this.

So, does anyone else with a CA79 or CA99 have this problem? Do those of you with these models notice obvious intermediate levels of sustain and if so how many distinct levels do you hear?

I have posted this on the “Kawai CA79/CA99 Owner’s Club” thread as well.

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Here's a relatively easy way you can check - plug the DP into your PC via USB (or wirelessly to your phone via BT-MIDI), and download a MIDI monitoring tool like MIDI-OX or MIDI Monitor. When you press the pedal (or any key), it will tell you what is being pressed, and what the current MIDI velocity is. You should see stepped values as you press the pedal down from 0 (off) to 127 (fully engaged). I think the CA-series will show values like 0, 6, 14, 22, 30, etc., meaning you won't see every value displayed, but it'll show a dozen or more between 0-127.

If you are seeing that, it confirms the pedal is working and your sound engine is receiving the correct MIDI signals, and it's just a matter of software setting or virtual technician as to whether the half-pedaling values are being rendered.

Once you're connected to your phone/PC, you can send use an app to send MIDI signals to the DP too, so you can set your pedal value at 64 or 10 and compare the sustain effect against setting it to 127.


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Thanks Gombessa, I will try that.

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The "half pedalling" feature operates within a small part of the pedals overall range of movement.

So, one needs to take it slow when pressing it gradually downwards to hear the various gradations.

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Same for the P515. The bit in the middle isn't any different from a 3 position switch. But Pianoteq displays the full range, and I can use that easily if I want. So the pedal's fine, but the piano isn't. It has a continuous facility but hardly if you see what I mean. It may well be an easy solution to overpedalling on a digital, which everybody seems to do, to make up for the decreased resonances compared to the acoustic.

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