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Originally Posted by Carey
I think you will like the Organ Symphony - particularly if you are familiar with the movie, "Babe."

https://youtu.be/H11mlCL-dkE

A live performance isn't bad either. grin
I've never watched "Babe", but the song was Top of the Pops in the UK for quite a while when I was a kid, and I couldn't get it out of my ear:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIZbF9WsCcs

It was only when I grew up that I heard the source of the tune.......


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Originally Posted by bennevis
Originally Posted by Carey
I think you will like the Organ Symphony - particularly if you are familiar with the movie, "Babe."

https://youtu.be/H11mlCL-dkE

A live performance isn't bad either. grin
I've never watched "Babe", but the song was Top of the Pops in the UK for quite a while when I was a kid, and I couldn't get it out of my ear:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIZbF9WsCcs

It was only when I grew up that I heard the source of the tune.......
I didn't realize the "song" went back that far. A tad hard to stomach in that particular performance format, however. grin


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Originally Posted by QuasiUnaFantasia
In roughly chronological order:

Mozart: 40th
Beethoven: 9th
Liszt: Faust symphony
Tchaikovsky: 6th
Dvorak: 9th
Mahler: 1st
Saint-Saens: 3rd (organ symphony)
Strauss, R.: "Alpine symphony"
Nielsen: 4th "The inextinguishable"
Sibelius: 2nd
Ah yes - the Neilsen and Sibelius - both great works !!!!!!


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CyberGene Thank you for starting this thread. I now have a sizable list of music to listen to, music that is new to me. Fun!


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Oh, my - well, here are some of them, anyway:

C.P. E. Bach - D major, Wq. 183/1
Elgar 1
Brahms 2
Beethoven 7
Nielson 4,5,6
Szymanowski 3, 4 (although 4 is really a piano concerto in everything but name)
Prokofiev 6
Shostakovich 9
Alkan Symphonie for solo piano
Stravinsky Symphony in 3 movements
Adams Chamber Symphony; Son of Chamber Symphony
Vaughn Williams 4
Sibelius 4-7
Persichetti 4
Lutoslawski 3,4
Tippett 4
Dvorak 7,8
Hartmann 6
Mendelssohn "Italian"
Saint-Saens 3
Nørgård 1,2, 6-8
Tishchenko 5, 7
Messiaen Turangalila
Chavez Sinfonia India
Ives "Holidays" Symphony; Sym. 4
Mennin 7
Tchaikovsky 1-3

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The thing is to limit to top 10 only smile It’s a bit of a challenge, I know.


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Originally Posted by Carey
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Originally Posted by Carey
I think you will like the Organ Symphony - particularly if you are familiar with the movie, "Babe."

https://youtu.be/H11mlCL-dkE

A live performance isn't bad either. grin
I've never watched "Babe", but the song was Top of the Pops in the UK for quite a while when I was a kid, and I couldn't get it out of my ear:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIZbF9WsCcs

It was only when I grew up that I heard the source of the tune.......
I didn't realize the "song" went back that far. A tad hard to stomach in that particular performance format, however. grin


Ah yes, but as a clip from ‘Babe’? Wonderful 😊


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Babe is one of my favourite films.

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Originally Posted by CyberGene
The thing is to limit to top 10 only smile It’s a bit of a challenge, I know.

It is?? I saw that you gave your own top 10 in the OP, but I didn't read it to mean the rest of us were supposed to see that as our limit, too. But now that I know, here goes the winnowing -

Beethoven 7
Bruckner 7
Dvorak 7
Messiaen Turangalila
Sibelius 5
Szymanowski 3
Ives "Holidays" Symphony
Brahms 2
Alkan Symphonie for solo piano
Stravinsky Symphony in 3 Movements

Or something like that. :-)

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The Bizet is nice. So is the Vorisek (not good with Czech diacriticals). And the Borodin symphonies.


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Originally Posted by bennevis
Mine, in no particular order, at this precise moment in time:

Mozart 39
Beethoven 9
Brahms 1
Mendelssohn 2
Bruckner 7
Mahler 2
Rachmaninov 2
Sibelius 5
Nielsen 3 (Sinfonia Espansiva)
Vaughan Williams 7 (Sinfonia Antartica)

Well, after my initial top ten, here's my next top ten wink , again at this precise moment:

Mozart 40
Beethoven 6 (Pastoral)
Dvořák 9 (New World)
Mahler 9
Tchaikovsky 5
Shostakovich 5
Nielsen 2 (The Four Temperaments)
Sibelius 2
Martinů 3
Honegger 3 (Symphonie Liturgique)


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Beethoven 3 (an absolute gift from on high)
Schubert 8
Brahms 1
Sibelius 2,7
Tchaikovsky 4,6
Stravinsky Symphony in C
Ives 4
Pettersson 9

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From the hollow belly, in sort of chronological order of composers.

J.C.Bach: op.18/5 (E Major)
Haydn: 94 (Surprise), 73 (Chasse)
Beethoven: 7, 5, 8
Schubert: 8 (Unfinished)
Schumann: 4
Dvorak: 9 (New World)
Shostakovich: 7 (Leningrad)

There are more symphonies I like.

There are also plenty of symphonies which have single movements I like. First movement from Mozart 40, second movement from Shostakovich 5, third movements from Tchaikowski 6 or Shostakovich 6, fourth movement of Mendelssohn 4, and many more.

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Copland 3
Barber 1
Ruggles "Sun Treader"
Brahms 1
Hovhaness "Celestial Gate"
Gorecki "Sorrowful Songs"

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Most of the above but I want to use this thread to introduce to you all a real masterpiece written by a 20/22 year-old nobody probably ever heard of before. His story is intriguing.

For the final year of his studies in 1878, Rott submitted the first movement of his Symphony in E major to a composition contest. When it was completed he showed it to Brahms who told Rott that he had no talent whatsoever and that he should give up music. Rott snapped. In October 1880, while on a train journey, he reportedly threatened another passenger with a revolver, claiming that Brahms had filled the train with dynamite. Rott was committed to a mental hospital in 1881 where he died at age 25.

But the symphony is one of my favorites. Listen to just the first 5 minutes before you decide to listen to the whole magnificent thing. And remember Rott was only 20 when he wrote the 1st movement.


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^ I have this symphony in my Apple Music library and I love it. And I’ve read about his short and tragic live. Such a pity.

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Speaking of obscure composers, there are a few of them that were wrongly accused of being sympathetic to the National Socialism and as a result were forcefully neglected in the denazification era, such as:

Franz Schmidt - wonderful symphonies!

Hans Pfitzner - many works, including a very nice symphony

Joseph Marx - some nice piano works and also a great symphony.

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Originally Posted by CyberGene
^ I have this symphony in my Apple Music library and I love it. And I’ve read about his short and tragic live. Such a pity.

It's interesting to note that Rott and Mahler roomed together for awhile at University of Music and Performing Arts Vienna. We'll never know the extent of what sort of influence Mahler had on Rott and vice-versa but it's safe to say that Rott was writing Mahler before Mahler was writing Mahler, so close are the style, orchestration and expansive musical thought. That opening horn melody against the fluttering strings and how it builds ever so gradually to a thunderous Wagnerian climax is to me pure genius from a 20 years old. Chopin at 20 was still writing piano concertos that mimicked the style of Hummel and here we have Hans Rott writing a nearly mature almost 1 hour symphony at the same age. The damage Brahms caused with his idiotic thoughtless criticisms which helped to push Rott over the edge of sanity will always be a stain on Brahms flawed character in my mind.

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Originally Posted by J Joe Townley
The damage Brahms caused with his idiotic thoughtless criticisms which helped to push Rott over the edge of sanity will always be a stain on Brahms flawed character in my mind.
Totally agree! I thought the same today after I listened to the entire symphony again. It’s one thing to criticize with objectivity or even reject music because you find it not fitting your concepts or whatever but to dismiss someone as lacking talent when that’s apparently not the case, well that’s just ugly and very rude. Absolute stain on Brahms who’s otherwise a very fine composer.

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10 is a small number, well, mine at this very moment, and in no particular order:

Brahms 1
Bruckner 8
Mahler 2
Beethoven 7
Dvorak 9
Berlioz sympf.fant.
Franck
Rachmaninov 2
Tchaikovsky 6
Saint-Saëns 3


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