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What do you think?

Our little house could probably go up a bit in size, but not all the way to 7'.


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In size, or some other metric?

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We are looking for more quality and we can accommodate all the quality we can get, but in size we need to stay under 7'.


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The Estonia 168 if newer than 2007 (even better if newer than 2013) is already of exceptional quality if prepped and maintained well, and its design puts it in the comparable 6-foot range already.

What are you looking for?


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Generally speaking - Sure!

Just speaking in terms of length - There’s plenty of room to upgrade, going from 168cm, to slightly less than 213cm (7’)

6’6” puts You at 198cm - That’s more than an Estonia 190

In addition to length, You could also consider an upgrade in Make/Model, &/or a combination of length & quality


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Originally Posted by SonatainfSharp
The Estonia 168 if newer than 2007 (even better if newer than 2013) is already of exceptional quality if prepped and maintained well, and its design puts it in the comparable 6-foot range already.
Why do you think it's design puts it in the 6-foot range?

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Obvious places to look are Estonia-- 190 and 210. You need to figure out cost net of trade-in to see if that makes financial sense.

Otherwise, is there something you're missing? You want Bechstein, Steingraeber, Bosendorfer, or something else? Maybe a perfectly restored Steinway? Plenty of options.

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Originally Posted by malkin
We are looking for more quality and we can accommodate all the quality we can get, but in size we need to stay under 7'.

Excellent!!

Here are few Top Tier brands, under 6’6”, to Consider:

Steingraeber A-170. Don’t let the small size fool You - The A-170 is a Great piano


Bösendorfer 185VC


C. Bechstein 192


I’m sure others can add to this list


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The Estonia 168 is fab and we love it.
We are looking for suggestions as to what we might love more.


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Originally Posted by SonatainfSharp
The Estonia 168 if newer than 2007 (even better if newer than 2013) is already of exceptional quality if prepped and maintained well, and its design puts it in the comparable 6-foot range already.
Why do you think it's design puts it in the 6-foot range?
Wider tail design a la Seiler, Petrof, et al for longer bass strings and soundboard area. There are whitepapers somewhere.


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The Estonia 168 if newer than 2007 (even better if newer than 2013) is already of exceptional quality if prepped and maintained well, and its design puts it in the comparable 6-foot range already.
Why do you think it's design puts it in the 6-foot range?
Wider tail design a la Seiler, Petrof, et al for longer bass strings and soundboard area. There are whitepapers somewhere.
That feature makes a small difference in string length and soundboard area. I strongly doubt the soundboard area and string length would compare to a typical 6' grand without the wider tail.

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The Steinway model O has a length of 5'11" and is 5" longer than the Estonia 168. The longest bass string on the Steinway is 4" longer than the Estonia 168. So even a less than 6' piano with a non wide tail has a bass string longer than the Estonia 160, and the difference in the longest bass string is almost the same as the difference in piano length. The Estonia 168 has a soundboard area of 13.46 square feet. I couldn't find the soundboard area for the Steinway O but my guess is it's bigger.

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A Steinway B is technically under 7', at 6'11" wink

A really good B is like a dream. There was one at school that my sister and I still talk about.


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What about the Mason & Hamlin AA, at 6'4"?

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You have to go experience the pianos if upgrading from an already very good piano. There is variability among individual examples, in addition to the makers’ tone they consider ideal. Depending on your local market availability, trips are in order when possible.

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Why not an Estonia L190, L210 or L225? Same lyrical sound with a bigger richer bass. Or a Schimmel K series? Best Wishes.


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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
The Steinway model O has a length of 5'11" and is 5" longer than the Estonia 168. The longest bass string on the Steinway is 4" longer than the Estonia 168. So even a less than 6' piano with a non wide tail has a bass string longer than the Estonia 160, and the difference in the longest bass string is almost the same as the difference in piano length. The Estonia 168 has a soundboard area of 13.46 square feet. I couldn't find the soundboard area for the Steinway O but my guess is it's bigger.
This is fabulous research. Thank you!


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Thanks everyone!
Schimmel C189.

We both like it. We don't have to refinance the house to pay for it, and we don't need a bigger house to accommodate it. It's available now, from a local dealer we know and trust.

Mr. Malkin says it is sure to be our last piano, but I've heard that 3 times now.


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Cool! Enjoy.


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That’s Wonderful - Congrats!

I’ve found Schimmels to have a very pretty tone

Enjoy!


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