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Would you buy a Steinway D (new or used) if you had the space and means to do so?

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Yes.

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Generally speaking,...

Aside from a Bösendorfer 280VC, the next piano that size, I’d most be interested in, would be a Steingraeber E-272


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I would actually go for a slightly smaller piano. I actually played a couple of E-272 at the factory. I'm sure it's the best piano for performing in a large space, but there are smaller ones with different tonal qualities that might be considered more pleasant.

What I'm trying to say here: just because it's the biggest and most expensive model, the Model D isn't automatically the best sounding. At the high end, the differences between individual pianos might be more important than between models or even brands.

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The OP never said we can only choose one piano. I'd rather have a D than not have one. 😀

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Originally Posted by Keybender
I would actually go for a slightly smaller piano. I actually played a couple of E-272 at the factory. I'm sure it's the best piano for performing in a large space, but there are smaller ones with different tonal qualities that might be considered more pleasant.

That makes sense

Of the pianos You played, while at the Steingraeber factory, which were Your favorites


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If I had the space and means...sure...as long as it were pre-1998.


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If you have a room at least 11-12 feet long and 7-8 feet wide, you have space. You really can't compare the touch, sound and overall performance of the D to smaller Steinway models. If you have the chance, play as many as you can in the same room as B (and/or C) models. You will feel and hear the difference.

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I would definitely consider it. I'd probably end up going used. They are readily available on the used market that have been refurbished or rebuilt by excellent rebuilders. I know someone who splurged for a new B. His technician has put in a lot of hours tweaking it (he's particular about it), and the piano is still young. It's developing and it gets nicer every time I play it, but that takes a while.

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Originally Posted by GC13
I would definitely consider it. I'd probably end up going used. They are readily available on the used market that have been refurbished or rebuilt by excellent rebuilders.
I think most rebuilders have very few of the model D because most people don't want such a large piano.

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Originally Posted by oldMH
If you have a room at least 11-12 feet long and 7-8 feet wide, you have space. You really can't compare the touch, sound and overall performance of the D to smaller Steinway models. If you have the chance, play as many as you can in the same room as B (and/or C) models. You will feel and hear the difference.
I think most people would correctly not want a D in such a small space.

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Originally Posted by Lucubrate
Originally Posted by Keybender
I would actually go for a slightly smaller piano. I actually played a couple of E-272 at the factory. I'm sure it's the best piano for performing in a large space, but there are smaller ones with different tonal qualities that might be considered more pleasant.

That makes sense

Of the pianos You played, while at the Steingraeber factory, which were Your favorites


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It was an A170 studio. Great warmth and clarity at the same time. Definitely would have bought it, hadn't I been looking for an upright.

Touch was phenomenal.

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My space is 20' X20 ', 400 sq. ft. A detached double car garage we had converted about 20 years ago. Very well sound-proofed and we just installed new hardwood floor. Some FB pictures.

https://www.facebook.com/dave.ferris.125323/posts/2707312736189629

If I had the dough, yes I'd get another for the house. Do have room if it were placed in the middle of the living room but my wife wouldn't go for it. Can't say I blame her. wink
Do have room against the right wall for a 7'er. More practical an Avant Grand though for keeping peace.

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I've been looking at this one for over a year. Anyone know anything about Bryan and his work ?

https://www.pianomart.com/buy-a-piano/view?id=39129

This one's about 2100 miles closer.
https://www.pianomart.com/buy-a-piano/view?id=44229

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Originally Posted by Keybender
It was an A170 studio. Great warmth and clarity at the same time. Definitely would have bought it, hadn't I been looking for an upright.

Touch was phenomenal.

Thanks Keybender!

I’ve heard Great things about the A170, from people Whose opinions I highly respect

I seriously considered acquiring one, for the only space I have left, which was in a finished basement. Unfortunately, I wasn’t sure if I could actually get the piano down there


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I would not hesitate to own a good D. If it was rebuilt and customized by PianoCraft it might even be my first choice, especially if it was from certain eras. If I had other options and it was a generic Steinway D, but still a good one, there are definitely other ways I would go given unlimited resources and only the option of one piano.
It is interesting that the model A170 Steingraeber was mentioned. We have one currently that I would definitely choose the top half over probably 99% of Ds and the bottom half is shockingly good for a piano its size and the overall balance is superior to most Ds for sure. If it were my piano, it would take a pretty stunning D to get me to part with it.
I do love a good D though. Especially a Hamburg or a vintage NY.


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I don’t know anything about Brian but Keith Kerman at PianoCraft is well respected ( as also a member here) I would contact him

I would also contact Sally Phillips at smc music in Rome Ga — well respected member who specializes in Steinways


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I would definitely consider it. I'd probably end up going used. They are readily available on the used market that have been refurbished or rebuilt by excellent rebuilders.
I think most rebuilders have very few of the model D because most people don't want such a large piano.

Maybe not in your area, but I see them quite frequently, both locally and on the websites of rebuilders. There are 2 or 3 available right now here locally. Maybe there aren't hundreds of them out there, but they are there. And it goes in cycles. In my opinion, looking for a used one might be a lot easier than going thru the S&S dealer and taking the one you can get, or putting your deposit down to be able to make a trip to the Steinway Hall selection room. The 2 or 3 that I know of locally are not at the S&S dealer here. The only one at the dealer currently is the C&A piano. The only time they have a new one on the floor is when they are setting one up for delivery to the customer.

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I'm still kicking myself for letting a private-sale D slip through my fingers a few years ago because it needed a little work.

Larry.

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No. I prefer my 1881 Bluthner.

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