2017 was our 20th year online!

Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 3 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments.
Over 100,000 members from around the world.
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Shop our online store for music lovers
SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Best of Piano Buyer
 Best of Piano Buyer
(ad)
Pianoteq
Steinway Spiro Layering
(ad)
Wessell Nickel & Gross
PianoForAll
Who's Online Now
49 members (Beowulf, chopinetto, DrTeeth, DigitalSpace, ambrozy, bwv872, Emily2Lame, 14 invisible), 404 guests, and 533 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 7
M
Mikex3 Offline OP
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
M
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 7
I have zero piano experience, but I've always wanted to learn to play one.

After watching and reading countless reviews over the past couple of weeks, I've decided to purchase either the Kawai ES110 or the Yamaha P-125. A couple of local stores have the P-125 in stock, and I was able to play around with it and compare it to the Casio PX-S1000. Unfortunately the Kawai isn't in stock in my area, but the reviews have been so good that I'm almost willing to buy one without actually playing it.

The connectivity thing and the zillions of apps/BT/USB/MIDI/etc has kind of thrown me for a loop. I'm an old guy. I have a decent desktop rig but no tablets or other mobile devices. For initially learning I'd like to use a book and accompanying audio (Faber's or something similar). All I want to do is connect the piano to my pc and be able to hear both the instrument and mp3s through headphones. Will I be able to do that on the ES110 with a MIDI-USB cable?

Many apologies for such a basic question, but I can be a bit of a knuckle-dragger when it comes to tech stuff. I haven't found a thing online that answers my question. Thanks for any advice.

Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,474
E
EPW Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
E
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,474
The P-125 has a built in audio over USB so that piano would be ideal for what you want to do.

The audio from the computer would be sent over the USB to the Yamaha P-125 and played through the speakers while you are playing the piano. You do have to download drivers for this to work from
here:

https://usa.yamaha.com/products/musical_instruments/pianos/p_series/p-125/downloads.html

The Kawai ES-110 doesn't have Audio in jacks so stick with the Yamaha P-125. It is a good piano for a beginner.


All these years playing and I still consider myself a novice.
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 869
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 869
You could do it with midi or the audio over USB feature (the p125 has) but it would be a bit tricky and you’d have to worry about software/drivers/latency etc.

I think the easiest way would be to get a piano with ‘aux in’ and use your piano as your computer speakers, your piano would then effectively add your pc (or phone/tablet) sounds to the mix (and route it through headphones if you plugged them into the piano). I don’t think either the ES100 or P125 has an aux in though. The Casio PSX1000 does have one however. Some pianos can do the same thing and ‘aux in’ over Bluetooth. Your pc (if it isn’t a laptop or Mac) probably doesn’t have Bluetooth though.

Another option would be buying a small mixer that does the job for you. You could even plug your computer speakers, headphones both as outputs and piano and pc as inputs and get which mix of between them you liked. Check out the Roland GO mixer as an example.

Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,474
E
EPW Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
E
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,474
AndrewJCW is right that the Yamaha doesn't have AUX-in jack(s) but you don't need it with audio over USB. I have a friend who has the Yamaha P515 which has this and it was no big deal to set-up and works really well. It is a neat function to have IMHO.

The Casio does have one nice feature - it can run on batteries.


All these years playing and I still consider myself a novice.
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 6,157
C
6000 Post Club Member
Offline
6000 Post Club Member
C
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 6,157
Originally Posted by AndrewJCW
. . .

Another option would be buying a small mixer that does the job for you. You could even plug your computer speakers, headphones both as outputs and piano and pc as inputs and get which mix of between them you liked. Check out the Roland GO mixer as an example.

That's how I do it. But I use a Behringer Xenyx 802. A Behringer Q802USB would be even more flexible -- it has a built-in audio-to-USB adapter, so you can do things like sending your DP sound out over Zoom, without using a microphone.


. Charles
---------------------------
PX-350 / microKorg XL+ / Pianoteq
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,462
C
2000 Post Club Member
Offline
2000 Post Club Member
C
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,462
Piano has audio out.

Computer has audio in.

Audio goes from piano to computer and gets mixed with other sounds.

One simple cable is needed. This works on the Kawai too.

And MIDI isn't actual audio, so it's not the best way to do it.

Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 7
M
Mikex3 Offline OP
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
M
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 7
Thanks to all of you for the very quick and helpful answers. My P-125 will be here on Tuesday.

Now over to the Adult Beginners Forum.

Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 75
J
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
J
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 75
Sweet! I have a p121 and wasn’t aware it had that feature! Now I’ve got to try it just for fun.

Good luck with getting started Mike. It’s slow at first, but give it a year and I suspect you’ll be happy with your progress. There are few things more rewarding in life IMO.

Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 7
M
Mikex3 Offline OP
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
M
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 7
Originally Posted by Johnny English
Sweet! I have a p121 and wasn’t aware it had that feature! Now I’ve got to try it just for fun.

Good luck with getting started Mike. It’s slow at first, but give it a year and I suspect you’ll be happy with your progress. There are few things more rewarding in life IMO.

Thanks for the encouraging words, Johnny. Learning to play the piano will be the most challenging activity I've undertaken. I'm looking forward to it, but I'm also just a bit anxious.
t


Moderated by  Piano World 

Link Copied to Clipboard
(ad)
Couch to Concert Hall
Couch to Concert Hall
(ad)
Faust Harrison Pianos
Faust Harrison 100+ Steinway pianos
(ad)
PianoDisc

PianoDisc
(ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad)
Mason & Hamlin Pianos
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Where to find good interpretations?
by pablobear - 03/03/21 08:01 PM
Pretty, but a little overpriced??
by ShiroKuro - 03/03/21 07:05 PM
My simplyfied setup.
by lvercaut - 03/03/21 04:13 PM
Uprights with a proper music desk
by Tone Deaf - 03/03/21 03:57 PM
Download Sheet Music
Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads
Forum Statistics
Forums42
Topics205,375
Posts3,066,427
Members100,701
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
Please Support Our Advertisers


Faust Harrison 100+ Steinways

Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver

 Best of Piano Buyer

PianoTeq Bechstein
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads



 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


© copyright 1997 - 2021 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5