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Today I was checking something inside my K500 and had to open up the lid and remove the front panel. As the strings and hammers were all exposed I decided to go ahead to do my practice session without replacing it. I loved the sound. I love the tone of the piano anyway but loved it even more when it was open like this. I hadn’t really appreciated how much the panel muffles the sound especially when I was playing fast trills. So... my questions is, would I do any harm to the piano if I just left it off. The strings and hammers would all be exposed but aren’t they on a grand anyhow? Maybe it’s a silly questions but do you see any issues. Assuming I can store the panel safely what are the possible issues that I am not aware of?

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I don’t see any harm in it. Seems to work ok for this family. 😍

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Does no harm at all, but it's a little hard to prop up the music and lean it against the action.

I would suggest that you try putting the upper panel back on, but open the lid - there is a small lid prop on the back of the front panel that will hold the lid open at a nice angle, directing the sound towards you. You might like that just as well!


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Oh my! smile Almost 5 months owning the piano and I never noticed that little lid prop! I’ve been opening the lid fully as it’s hinged like that but I guess all the sound was going up. With the lid prop keeping it slightly ajar it is directing the sound towards me and I think the tone is better than fully open. Thanks!

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Maybe this does no serious harm but:
1. It looks pretty unattractive IMO.
2. The insides will collect a lot of dirt and dust which can't be good for the piano. By way of comparison, I don't think many people leave the lid on their grand permanently raised. I suppose one could cover the opening on a vertical with something when not playing it, but this is not very attractive.
3. No music desk is available.

It doesn't make sense to me why the front panel would particularly muffle the sound on fast trills like the OP said.

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Couple things that come to mind are;

1. It would be more prone to collect dust.
2. There is alot of tension on those strings. In the unlikely event that one were to break, it could seriously hurt you if it happened to clip you. Though I've never heard of this happening, I'd be too frightened to allow a child near a piano in this state.

Personally I like to open the lid, but leave on the front cover.

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as a vertical piano, for me the front panel is a part of structure. For sure it will reduce the resistance to shocks or to weights


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Pay no attention to the Front Panel Conspiracy! Piano strings don't lash out when they break, and they very, very seldom break in home settings. And the front panel is not a significant part of the piano's "structure".

KawaiDon's reply has true science behind it! (And 30+ years of experience).

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I like to play my upright pianos with the front panel off the piano. The Baldwin 243 studio upright I owned for a while had the top lid and front panel all made as one piece. You could raise the assembly and there was a prop on the left side to keep it propped up. I rather enjoyed playing it in that position. But I would close/lower the assembly when not playing. It sounded good with the front panel assembly closed too.

I also keep the front panel off my old upright saloon pianos. I like them that way, and leave the panel off. I doubt it would collect much more dust inside the piano than was there when I got them. smile

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Reminds me of this Youtube cover.

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I love uprights with the front off. I used to play with the front off and bottom front off on my old piano. On my current piano, it sounds great but is much too loud.

If possible, keep the front on the piano to avoid dust, but try pulling your piano away from the wall and see how it sounds!


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Same, whenever I can, I take the front panel off the uprights when I practice. I don't do it if I need to use the music rest though.


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No problem at all if you don't use music rack. Just put back the front panel and close lid after you played to prevent dust come into the piano. With out front panel,sound will be reflected from the soundboard and goes to front direction directly

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Originally Posted by ebonykawai
I don’t see any harm in it. Seems to work ok for this family. 😍

https://youtu.be/RgSoJ1LksV0


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I like sitting close when someone else is playing the piano, but not inside it! wink


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I'm remembering a video that was linked here once long ago.

It featured an interview with a songwriter (keyboardist?) for some popular band, and he was talking about writing at the piano, an upright with the front panel off. He said he liked all the metal right up in his face, and was gesticulating between his face and the piano.


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With some of the taller uprights, this is a feature, not a bug, and you can "open" the front lid, or at least part of it, for greater sound experience.
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I agree with the points already raised re: dust etc.


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Originally Posted by ADIRL
Oh my! smile Almost 5 months owning the piano and I never noticed that little lid prop! I’ve been opening the lid fully as it’s hinged like that but I guess all the sound was going up. With the lid prop keeping it slightly ajar it is directing the sound towards me and I think the tone is better than fully open. Thanks!

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My K500 sounds better with the front panel off also but 🤷🏼‍♂️

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