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#3071813 01/20/21 10:44 AM
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Ivory II ACD! Any comparisons, any experience or opinion?

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Why name the topic Pianoteq 7 vs. ???
Just call it Please find me a good VST.

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Have you downloaded the free trial of Pianoteq? On this forum some of us like the sound and some of us don't. Really need to play/hear it for yourself.


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Yes, I heard it. Every version since version 2.

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Haven't got the ACD, but bought the Studio Grands recently. Even more recently updated to Pianoteq 7.

I play the Ivory II Studio Grands 98% of the time, and Pianoteq really isn't a competitor at this point.


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I have most of the popular VSTs and ... I only use Pianoteq7 now.

It gives me a lot of variety when I want it and it sounds like a piano to me.

I am not about to analyze every nuance of every VST to find the "best".

I am better off spending my time practicing.

The more I practice the better I sound, regardless of the VST I am using.


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I'm with dmd and found I'm using Pianoteq7 more and more instead of VSTs. Still I have Truepianos which hasn't been updated unfortunately. Have some other pianos from IK-multimedia etc..........

I just find that Pianoteq for my needs works very well now on version 7 and doesn't use huge amount of resources.

Now when earlier versions of Pianoteq were out I didn't feel this way. I thought Sampled pianos were the way to go. I still loved playing PTQ for practicing but if I was recording I would go toward a sampled VSTi. Still I'm Glad I brought Pianoteq and the upgrades to support the development of this company.
They keep improving the product IMHO. Only you OP can decide if PTQ is for right for you.

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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
Why name the topic Pianoteq 7 vs. ???
Just call it Please find me a good VST.

Nay!! I deliberately chose this title. Amongst affinados of (modern) Steinway D sound ACD is still considered a champion piano and IvoryII their most prefered vst, which is a sampled product. But since version 7 there is a modelled competitor (including its condition slider). To my knowledge there is no ACD by VSL.

So if you want an ACD (not Hammersm., Embertone, RVC275... you name èm), what are the positives and negatives of those two? Which one would win?

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It is not named ACD, but their is a Steinway VSL. Since it is an Hamburg model, let’s call it GCD for German Concert Grand wink


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Originally Posted by Frédéric L
It is not named ACD, but their is a Steinway VSL. Since it is an Hamburg model, let’s call it GCD for German Concert Grand wink

Yes, but its unlike ACD, different materials, different hammers, different design -- different tonal quality. So different beasts, I won`t comment which one IS better, just consult the piano book.

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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
Yes, I heard it. Every version since version 2.
His answer was directed at the OP, not at you. smile


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ACD is my favourite piano. I prefer the sound of Steinways. I have the full Garritan, which I like a lot, but I still prefer Ivory ACD...
Back when it came out in 2012-2013 a lot of people loved it.. Now, a lot prefer other pianos... And you will find people criticizing pedalling or some other "issues".
I have played dozens of virtual and digital pianos, and for me it still has the best sound. And excellent playability. Ivory German is also good, while Studio Grand is pretty bad IMO. The second best for me is the Nord piano, but that is a digital, not a virtual piano.
Pianoteq is not bad, has great playability too, but the sound is clearly inferior to my ears.


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Originally Posted by EPW
Have you downloaded the free trial of Pianoteq? On this forum some of us like the sound and some of us don't. Really need to play/hear it for yourself.

+1. As you can see, from the range of the replies.

I can put on headphones, run Pianoteq, and imagine myself playing a nice grand piano:

. . . That's good enough.

It may be that my imagination is over-active.<g>


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Then mine is too Charles. Pianoteq keeps evolving. Maybe not at a base some users would like but it still is improving IMO. Nice thing about PTQ being a VSTi we can upgrade when we feel the need or desire. I'm looking forward to the next piano modeled based on the PTQ-7 version.

As a side note I just looked on Truepianos website and they verified the software to run on the new ARM based Macs. So maybe Truepianos will reach version 2.0 in a few more years LOL.


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Originally Posted by dmd
The more I practice the better I sound, regardless of the VST I am using.

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Download the Demo Version of Pianoteq and buy the IOS Version ACD in Korg Module.I have paid 18€ for ACD. Then you can compare the two.


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I think you should to a search for PT on this forum. You will find that it's pretty much split 50/50 like/dislike. And it's usually all or nothing, so people who don't like PT don't say "I prefer PT over Garritan, but Ivory II over PT".

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I think Pianoteq has enough of the faults embedded in an acoustic piano to comfortably pass as one. I haven't a squeaky loud pedal, but the thing's out of tune, some notes predominate, and the Regulator (me) has to step in from time to time.
I pay myself a lot of money to carry out this valuable service.
But the old Bechstein has definitely seen better days. It has that decaying sound about its mortal framework. Pity I can't polish the old girl . . . . .(shrug)


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Originally Posted by peterws
I think Pianoteq has enough of the faults embedded in an acoustic piano to comfortably pass as one. I haven't a squeaky loud pedal, but the thing's out of tune, some notes predominate, and the Regulator (me) has to step in from time to time.
I pay myself a lot of money to carry out this valuable service.
But the old Bechstein has definitely seen better days. It has that decaying sound about its mortal framework. Pity I can't polish the old girl . . . . .(shrug)

Must be something with the name "Pete" with the type of posts being written wink

Hmm you will be able to polish the old girl up you just have to wait to version 10 comes out. smile


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I think Pianoteq has enough of the faults embedded in an acoustic piano to comfortably pass as one. I haven't a squeaky loud pedal, but the thing's out of tune, some notes predominate, and the Regulator (me) has to step in from time to time.
I pay myself a lot of money to carry out this valuable service.
But the old Bechstein has definitely seen better days. It has that decaying sound about its mortal framework. Pity I can't polish the old girl . . . . .(shrug)

Must be something with the name "Pete" with the type of posts being written wink

Hmm you will be able to polish the old girl up you just have to wait to version 10 comes out. smile

I think I need an extant acoustic with candelabras to suit that old Bechstein bird. I could easily saw half the back off it to save space. . . .


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