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#3070335 01/17/21 11:57 AM
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Hi, I am in the market for a high quality upright piano. Leaning towards buying new. (Intermediate level, studied five years when I was much younger and resumed studying six years ago... hooked for life now).

I set out to cap my budget at around 10K USD, but I really fell in love with an upright Petrof P-125... the action was delightful and responsive, and the tone was so rich and complex. (I liked it more than the comparable P-131, though that could just be specific to these two particular pianos in the shop).

MSRP is 28K, and the original asking price was 18K, but I talked him down to 14.5K. (All pre tax; includes delivery and first tuning).


This is well below PianoBuyer’s SMP, but it’s more than I wanted to spend and seems to be a bit more expensive compared to some other online quotes (I can only find European sellers who post the actual price, and maybe those models are older than 2020)...

I want to ask: does this sound like a reasonable deal? Are there comparable upright pianos in the 10K range that you would urge me to consider?

I’m prepared to buy, but this being my first acoustic piano purchase, I would greatly appreciate a second opinion! I have sampled Wilhelm Schimmel W123, Schimmel K-125, Yamaha U1, a used Steinway upright for 11K (sadly it had way to light action for my taste), and a Kawai K300... the Yamaha and Kawai felt pretty great but the sound quality of the Petrof was in a different league IMHO.


Thank you! (This is my first post, apologies if this is off-topic)

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Hi Drew
My advice always is: once you find a piano with the right tone and touch for you, buy it and don’t look back. It will motivate you to play more because of your enjoyment of the actual piano.


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I haven't had an opportunity to play a Petrof upright in many years, but from what I've seen and heard on YouTube, the P-125 is a gorgeous piano. If you really are trying to stay in the $10K range, however, you might try a Kawai K-500 - which is a definite step up from the K-300.


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I have had the opportunity to play a few Petrof uprights in the last year or so, and they’re fantastic instruments!

If you are looking for another instrument to compare with, I’d really recommend the Hoffmann T122 or T128. A really sweet European tone, and in my experience just a touch mellower than the Petrof (they’re still reasonably bright though!)

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I had a Petrof 125 that I had purchased used. I think the original owner paid around $9K close to 20 years ago. $14.5K doesn't sound unreasonable to me! I really loved that piano and I think you will enjoy it for a very long time smile


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I played one a few years ago and really liked it. Buy it if you can swing it. I’d say you have a fair price, and things cost what they cost.

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Also, maybe you still need to do some shopping to make sure you don't find another piano that you enjoy just as much for cheaper, but if this is the one you really love, I don't think you should settle for another. This will end up being the piano that got away.


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It's a good price, just make sure the piano is getting to you in good condition in terms of regulation and voicing.

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Thanks for all the input!

I did go play a Hoffman upright, along with a $70K Bechstein ... I still favored the Petrof!

I found another local piano dealer who gave me a better deal. Black instead of Walnut, G1 instead of M1, and a few years older but still “new” (never left inventory).

I spent nearly an hour with it and found it to be just as enjoyable as the first. But I saved over $2K.

And now it is in my living room! I am overjoyed 😍

Thanks again!

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Congratulations on your new piano!

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Since there really is no substantial difference between the G1 and the M1 models, other than the design of the case, you certainly did well !! In fact, the current G1 models cost slightly more than the M1 models.

CONGRATULATIONS.


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Congrats!!


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Congratulations!!
I also bought a 1978 Petrof 125 under a special event, much bellow my budget. In the beginning the idea was this piano could be changed at any time, but once I tuned it, I changed my mind.


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