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Thanks for the info about the HP601. It's too bad I can't seem to find it for sale these days, at first listen the upper register definitely sounds better.


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At last! It looks like Roland are learning. People who play pianos are "musicians" not computer operatives!

There actually appears to be provision for a music stand. Can you imagine that? Roland fans treated like musicians now? A first!

One big top quality feature on the FP90X, and that is no protruding extraneous knobs, switches or so-called "joysticks! YES! You can load this into the back of a Trannie (er, that's a commonly used van, in Europe, full name, "Ford Transit", in case you don't know) and nobody is going to slide a huge great amp onto it and smash the knobs off.

Finally, an important matter that probably goes totally ignored by most, but is a huge boon to the audience.

The Roland name and "Big R" motif is subdued! It doesn't glare harshly from the stage forcing you to, if you remember, plaster black tape all over it. So now they can see you are playing a Roland and you can rest assured their eyes are not assaulted by your favourite manufacturer.

Those are three big bonuses for me.

They have bothered me, for decades!

Thanks Roland. Now... to find a dealer who has stock. No small matter in itself.

Slight minuses? Fewer voices than some other stage pianos, not a problem if the new ones are top quality, and no "midi thru". Small losses though.

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Hasn't FP models always had music rests?

It's the RD series that's for those who play by ear.

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Originally Posted by clothearednincompo
Hasn't FP models always had music rests?

It's the RD series that's for those who play by ear.

Shouldn't that read "those who are forced to play by ear"?

You may well be right, I own 2 RD's and have never wanted the built in speakers before!

But I am tempted by this new FP, I must admit, especially if it is lighter than an RD700NX.

I have so many free standing music rests now it hardly matters to me anymore. I think that is "life experience".

I have actually been considering the Korg SV2, but this looks comparable. And it's a Roland.

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Originally Posted by clothearednincompo
Hasn't FP models always had music rests?

It's the RD series that's for those who play by ear.

I feel that when it comes to small cost items, it's a no brainer. Why not include a music rest, just because it's easy, and you gain more friends and gain fewer enemies.

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But what if you like protruding knobs and buttons and sliders. Makes one feel powerful and in control.

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Originally Posted by slipperykeys
Originally Posted by clothearednincompo
Hasn't FP models always had music rests?

It's the RD series that's for those who play by ear.

Shouldn't that read "those who are forced to play by ear"?

You may well be right, I own 2 RD's and have never wanted the built in speakers before!

But I am tempted by this new FP, I must admit, especially if it is lighter than an RD700NX.

I have so many free standing music rests now it hardly matters to me anymore. I think that is "life experience".

I have actually been considering the Korg SV2, but this looks comparable. And it's a Roland.

I think the type of buyer the RD2000 is aimed at is someone who plans in advance: someone who likes to 'engine build' to generate more complex arrangements. They're probably quite skilled already, and are interested in production a bit too.
Perhaps more professional than amateur.


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Hey everyone, I've been a long time Roland FP7 owner (13 years) and it's nice to see these keep evolving. But i noticed two huge features that used to be on the older FPs missing from these new ones! No more Rhythms and Intelligent Accompaniment on any of the new models, and not even on the new F-701, whereas the older F-140r had that awesome feature. The 2nd thing i noticed gone is Piano Partner 2 App support. Instead they list Piano Every Day. So...does anyone know if Roland is planning to discontinue Piano Partner 2? Is Piano Every Day better with the same functionality, like Piano Remote and maybe Roland ditched the onboard Rhythms because we can access Rhythm accompaniment through the app? On Roland's site, i find no info that Piano Every Day would even have rhythm accompaniment. On youtube videos, there's a small mention of some kind of piano remote control on the app, but nothing about actual drum patterns, or accessing other GM Midi sounds like we could on PIano Partner 2. Anyone have insight?

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What's the go with these videos? I'm pretty sure none of these retailers have any in stock - as in not even a demo at their building. Did Roland fly these guys to their building for the purpose of making these videos? I mean if they did that's cool, it just seems a little opaque to pretend otherwise. Is that just the normal done thing for retailer product videos?

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One downside to this FP90X---which isn't a big downside---but whilst not really ugly, it's not stylish either: like an Audi.


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Originally Posted by Doug M.
One downside to this FP90X---which isn't a big downside---but whilst not really ugly, it's not stylish either: like an Audi.

Well, "audi" is Latin for "listen!", so I'd say that's quite fitting. :-)


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I think all the home pianos have the sort of bland safe Volvo-ish look about them. I guess they are very conscious it should blend in in a "family" living room. While we love talking about them and buying them, the primary market for home pianos is still parents buying them for their kids to learn on I imagine.

I duno if Audi would be my first brand that comes to mind for bland but whatever floats your boat.

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Originally Posted by AndrewJCW
I duno if Audi would be my first brand that comes to mind for bland but whatever floats your boat.
Well the R8 is actually a Lamborghini underneath... All the other Audi models aren't special.


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Originally Posted by Doug M.
... whilst not really ugly, it's not stylish either ...
Yes the design is the standard Kubrick/Arthur C. Clark black slab. (I admit to enjoying the the minimalism of the buttons/controls.)

More importantly, Roland used the exact same design - so it's basically version 2.0, with updated bits inside. I have a feeling this FP-X (2.0) series will be pretty durable and reliable.


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Listening to this demo of the FP90X, it sounds like they might have removed the SN EPs - correct? The FP90 got the SN EPs, I think. I'm not very familiar with the SN EPs, however I assume they don't have any looping, but I hear looping in this demo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9o_rq7qj14&t=223s (I don't hear looping artifacts, but I hear the LACK of a natural decay)

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Originally Posted by sullivang
Listening to this demo of the FP90X, it sounds like they might have removed the SN EPs - correct? The FP90 got the SN EPs, I think. I'm not very familiar with the SN EPs, however I assume they don't have any looping, but I hear looping in this demo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9o_rq7qj14&t=223s (I don't hear looping artifacts, but I hear the LACK of a natural decay)

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Don't know Greg, but these sound exactly like the EP's I played on the RD2000. I think the modelling for EPs is likely to be on the effects, amp sims etc., that would be my guess.


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... whilst not really ugly, it's not stylish either ...
Yes the design is the standard Kubrick/Arthur C. Clark black slab. (I admit to enjoying the the minimalism of the buttons/controls.)

More importantly, Roland used the exact same design - so it's basically version 2.0, with updated bits inside. I have a feeling this FP-X (2.0) series will be pretty durable and reliable.

Yeah, this definitely feels like an update rather than an upgrade: same shell, same action, updated sound engine only. Could easily have been called FP90SE.


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I duno if Audi would be my first brand that comes to mind for bland but whatever floats your boat.
Well the R8 is actually a Lamborghini underneath... All the other Audi models aren't special.

LMAO, the Top Gear video on the Lamborghini (after Audi got involved) described it as Italian styling with German engineering, so I'd say Lambo's are Audi's underneath.

My dislike is the matt finish all plastic top with the sunk in switches---Germanic look perhaps, but looks naff. I feel that for a home portable, the Italian styling Physis design would be a better way of achieving a contemporary look for the home:

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As pointed out though, it's how it sounds that really matters.

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I’m guessing if you already own the fp90 then upgrading to the fp90x isn’t worth it?

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