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Dear all,
I am looking to buy a NEW Baldwin BP-178 piano as a birthday gift for a family member; delivered to Dallas from anywhere within Texas or nearby states.

I am a bit clueless on how to start the search for dealers etc. I have obviously googled and found some names and contacted them already (awaiting responses).
However, since its my first ever purchase without any background in piano I am not sure I have inquired to the right people/dealers.

Could you kind and helpful people guide me in the right direction and provide me with some names of dealers in Texas or nearby states for this piano to be delivered in Dallas?
(I am not sure if you can purchase from another city/state or not, dealership territory issue here?, not sure...)
Also, I need some advice on the pricing of this piano. I read about MSRP/SMP on the internet in general as well as on this forum. What is the reasonable SMP for this piano and is negotiation in price is acceptable practice in buying piano?

Please feel free to add anything you might feel useful for the first time piano buyer.

Thanks in advance for your responses/assistance.

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Please do yourself a big favor and DON'T buy this piano.

It is of the lowest quality and you will regret it. I know people think "Baldwin" is a good American brand. It was. About 50+ years ago. The brand has been purchased by a Chinese manufacturer and they slap the name on very low quality mass produced "pianos."

Instead, please find a used Yamaha grand (model G1, GC1, C1, [all 5'3"; increasing in quality from G1]. G2, GC2, C2 [all 5'8"; increasing in quality from G2]) in your area. Have a qualified registered piano technician (they will have RPT next to their name) check it out. It will be less expensive that the Baldwin.

It will be a far more reliable and better sounding instrument that will be very durable. You can research the Yamaha brand and the models on this site. Yamaha is known for the highest quality manufacturing in the industry and it is the number one brand chosen by artists of all genres.


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FYI, I've never played a modern, Chinese-made Baldwin and can't comment on their quality. To be fair, however, a search of this site for that model clearly shows that they're not universally disrespected, here.

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DFW Piano Gallery had some awhile back. I haven't been there in some time so I'm not sure about availability.

Your family friend really needs to play the piano you intend to buy. There is much variation in touch and tone between individual pianos and personal preference really comes into play.

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Originally Posted by JazzPianoOnline
The brand has been purchased by a Chinese manufacturer

This is false. Baldwin is owned by Gibson Guitars.


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Hi

According to the Baldwin website they did open a factory in China, but they are still owned by Gibson Guitars.

That said, Bill makes a good point. Yamaha have a very good reputation for making high quality musical instruments, and if you can get a Yamaha at a similar price I know which I'd go for (Yamaha).

As other posters have said your friend really needs to play the instrument.

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Originally Posted by JazzPianoOnline
Please do yourself a big favor and DON'T buy this piano.

It is of the lowest quality and you will regret it. I know people think "Baldwin" is a good American brand. It was. About 50+ years ago. .

It is highly doubtful. I first met Baldwin in 1972 in Israel, where I moved from Latvia, spoiled by old German-made pianos plus and Steinways. Baldwin's piano made a very miserable impression.

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I don't know about Baldwin's product line these days. I did just Google the Baldwin BP-178 and it seems to be well above $20,000. I don't know if this was US dollars or not.

I'm planning on checking out the Yamaha CLP-785 after recovering from surgery and being able to drive again (I need to drive out to the local Yamaha showroom and actually play the piano before buying it). The CLP-785 is around $6,000 I believe. My current "living room" piano is a Yamaha F01 - I've played it for about 6 years and it's holding up fine. I plan to give it to my sister if I do indeed buy the new CLP-785.

It appears this Baldwin is an acoustic piano. My experience over my lifetime is that people rarely have their acoustic pianos tuned often enough, giving them that mushy sound. Especially bad when playing more elaborate chords as in jazz piano.

You should do your homework before spending the amount of money. Read reviews. Actually play the pianos in question.

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Originally Posted by Sparkling1234
Dear all,
Also, I need some advice on the pricing of this piano. I read about MSRP/SMP on the internet in general as well as on this forum. What is the reasonable SMP for this piano and is negotiation in price is acceptable practice in buying piano?

Not sure for this model, but yes, negotiation is an acceptable practice. If they can't move on price they can often throw in a nice bench. You can always make an offer and see what they say. Keep in mind piano shops don't rake in tons on huge markups and they have a lot of overhead to cover too.


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