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Buy a Roland and you’ll have a piano similar to Pianoteq, namely an “infinitely tweakable” piano that can be made to recreate any existing or even non-existing piano in the universe, if you’re that type of believer. I don't reckon they're that tweakable. The variations between different pianos in Pianoteq are subtle and reflect the character of the original instrument, I fondly like to think. Roland used to offer some weird imaginary models such as “all triple silver strings”, etc but that was the V-Piano. Not sure how much of that tweakability has been reused in the new fully modeled pianos. In any case neither Roland nor Pianoteq are my cup of tea 😉
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BTW, I successfully ran Pianotec off of a $100 Windows tablet (that had a USB port), for busking with a $100 61 key, ketar-able but unweighted controller. Sounded great. So plug that same Windows tablet into your keyboard of choice (your PX5S, your Numa Compact 2X, whatever), and it sounds like you're all set! Not only have you done it more cheaply than if those companies had built PT into the boards themselves, but you even have the bonus of only having to have bought it once, yet you can use it on any of numerous boards you have or may buy in the future! And it hardly weighs anything. This illustrates that Pianotec can be easily implemented. I'd rather just use my iPad Mini, though...
Selmer Mark VI Tenor (‘73) & Alto Sax (‘57), Yamaha YSS-62 Soprano Sax (‘87), Conn Naked Lady Baritone Sax (‘52), Conn New Wonder Tenor & Alto Sax (‘24), Yamaha WX5 Wind Synth (‘13), Kawai MP11 & ES-110, Numa Compact 2x, Casio PX5S, Roland VR-09, Hammond E-112 (‘69).
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Skyscrapersax, it is Pianoteq, not Pianotec.
My YouTube, My SoundcloudCurrently: Yamaha N1X, DIY hybrid controller -> Garritan CFX Previously: NU1X, ES7, MP6, CA63, RD-700SX, CDP-100, FP-5, P90, SP-200
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BTW, I successfully ran Pianotec off of a $100 Windows tablet (that had a USB port), for busking with a $100 61 key, ketar-able but unweighted controller. Sounded great. So plug that same Windows tablet into your keyboard of choice (your PX5S, your Numa Compact 2X, whatever), and it sounds like you're all set! Not only have you done it more cheaply than if those companies had built PT into the boards themselves, but you even have the bonus of only having to have bought it once, yet you can use it on any of numerous boards you have or may buy in the future! And it hardly weighs anything. This illustrates that Pianotec can be easily implemented. I'd rather just use my iPad Mini, though... If it can be easily implemented, then do it my friend, and give us a quote. I already have an iPad. Skyscrapersax, it is Pianoteq, not Pianotec. Pianotec differs from Pianoteq. Pianotec can be easily implemented and runs on iPad (Mini in this case).
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Could you provide a link. Pianotec is a German acoustic piano shop. http://www.pianotec.eu/klaviere/verkauf-klaviere/On the other hand, the virtual piano by Modartt is named Pianoteq whether it runs on Windows, MacOS or Linux. https://www.modartt.com/try
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And it hardly weighs anything. This illustrates that Pianotec can be easily implemented. Weight tells you nothing about how easily (or how cheaply) something can be done.
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@anotherscott : I agree. A little program which heavily use CPU specific instruction can be hard to port on an other CPU, and it is easy to develop for a powerful CPU. Optimizing for a lower CPU can be difficult.
Note : I have tried without success Pianoteq on an eeePC (Intel Atom based little laptop).
Note : there exists an ARM version of Pianoteq and ARM CPU are known to use few electric power.
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Pianotec differs from Pianoteq. Pianotec can be easily implemented and runs on iPad (Mini in this case). Are you making this claim with zero evidence to present to this court room Abdol Guliani? 
Instruments: Current - Kawai MP7SE; Past - Kawai MP7, Yamaha PSR7000
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Pianotec differs from Pianoteq. Pianotec can be easily implemented and runs on iPad (Mini in this case). Are you making this claim with zero evidence to present to this court room Abdol Guliani? Think I could back him up, m'lud. With all due respect to your learned self,. a Pianoteq Bluthner will run, at 256 polyphonic, playing Pink's "Take me Home" full whack on a little Ideapad. All without breaking wind.
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All of this is sort of moot as Pianoteq is close to releasing Pianoteq for iPad etc. Have the modeled piano of your choice on your phone
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Pianotec differs from Pianoteq. Pianotec can be easily implemented and runs on iPad (Mini in this case). Are you making this claim with zero evidence to present to this court room Abdol Guliani? "Abdol Guliani"! it's a great name to troll the uncomfortable  Who needs evidence when this entire thread is rigged?
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Skyscrapersax, it is Pianoteq, not Pianotec.
Pianotec differs from Pianoteq. Pianotec can be easily implemented and runs on iPad (Mini in this case). For me, typo, and didn't catch in the small window to fix... PianoTEC? on iPad? Huh? I'll look that one up. As to running PianoTEQ on my $100 tablet, I just put it on USB and plugged it in. Apparently, the little tablet had enough juice for the gig.
Selmer Mark VI Tenor (‘73) & Alto Sax (‘57), Yamaha YSS-62 Soprano Sax (‘87), Conn Naked Lady Baritone Sax (‘52), Conn New Wonder Tenor & Alto Sax (‘24), Yamaha WX5 Wind Synth (‘13), Kawai MP11 & ES-110, Numa Compact 2x, Casio PX5S, Roland VR-09, Hammond E-112 (‘69).
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Pianotec differs from Pianoteq. Pianotec can be easily implemented and runs on iPad (Mini in this case). Are you making this claim with zero evidence to present to this court room Abdol Guliani? "Abdol Guliani"! it's a great name to troll the uncomfortable Who needs evidence when this entire thread is rigged? 😂
Instruments: Current - Kawai MP7SE; Past - Kawai MP7, Yamaha PSR7000
Software: Sibelius 7; Neuratron Photoscore Pro 8
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