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Originally Posted by clothearednincompo
Well, where's the documentation for Kawai's Bluetooth/MIDI interface for tweaking any settings?

Oh, it's proprietary? Then we can't really know how to create a librarian or is it even possible.

Give us the specs and we write the app.

But trying to reverse engineer it wouldn't be easy.

It's a long way from an idea to finished software.

(I know as I do it for a living.)
Thanks for the info!

So, suppose the specs were in the public domain. How much work would it be to simply change names and re-organize file order?


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Hello Randyman,

My apologies for overlooking your query.

I do not have a great deal of involvement in the software development side of Kawai's DPs, so am reluctant to comment on the "how much work would it be to..." question.

I believe the crux of you request is to be able to change the name/position of ES920/ES520 Registrations more easily, yes?
This kind of task could potentially be handled via the PianoRemote app. However, currently, the app functions independently of the piano - i.e. the piano's Registration memories are not synced to the app, nor can they be modified by the app.

I will raise this topic with my colleagues and keep you informed.

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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Hello Randyman,

I do not have a great deal of involvement in the software development side of Kawai's DPs, so am reluctant to comment on the "how much work would it be to..." question.

I believe the crux of you request is to be able to change the name/position of ES920/ES520 Registrations more easily, yes?

This kind of task could potentially be handled via the PianoRemote app. However, currently, the app functions independently of the piano - i.e. the piano's Registration memories are not synced to the app, nor can they be modified by the app.

I will raise this topic with my colleagues and keep you informed.

Kind regards,
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Thank you!

Yes, it's to be able to change the name/position of ES920/ES520 Registrations more easily.

And while you're at it, this would be worthwhile asking:
A post from clothearednincompo:

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Well, where's the documentation for Kawai's Bluetooth/MIDI interface for tweaking any settings?

Oh, it's proprietary? Then we can't really know how to create a librarian or is it even possible.

Give us the specs and we write the app.

But trying to reverse engineer it wouldn't be easy.

It's a long way from an idea to finished software.

(I know as I do it for a living.)


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It's okay to keep some things proprietary.

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This is a recording of the EX Concert Grand sound

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That's nice but IMHO the EX piano patch at default is a little too clean and cold, especially in the powerful low/middle-low registers, so I would add some little enviromental reverb just to make the sound more natural.
Often I use the EX with the following parameters of the "Small Hall" reverb:
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Hello from a newbie, returning to piano after quite a few years, and having just purchased a ES920. I'm still at the point of trying to remember how to play the piano right now!! But a quick question for all you knowledgeable people - as I'm clueless about midi, is it possible to take a midi file e.g. Bat out of heck, and only push the drum track to the digital piano and then play the song? Is that the type of thing that is possible or am I completely getting it wrong?!

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Maybe i miss in the previous post but anyone got an es520?

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Hello Magicpiano ---

Question, to be clear are you speaking of the SK-EX Concert Grand or the EX Concert Grand patch?

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Originally Posted by btcomm
Hello Magicpiano ---

Question, to be clear are you speaking of the SK-EX Concert Grand or the EX Concert Grand patch?
Well, in my latest post I talked about the EX, so I meant the EX. laugh

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Originally Posted by magicpiano
That's nice but IMHO the EX piano patch at default is a little too clean and cold, especially in the powerful low/middle-low registers, so I would add some little enviromental reverb just to make the sound more natural.
Often I use the EX with the following parameters of the "Small Hall" reverb:
- Depth: 8
- Time: 3

Thanks magicpiano, I like those settings, and I think I'll use them myself too.

Does anyone have an opinion on the Upright piano sound on the ES920?

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Originally Posted by magicpiano
That's nice but IMHO the EX piano patch at default is a little too clean and cold, especially in the powerful low/middle-low registers, so I would add some little enviromental reverb just to make the sound more natural.
Often I use the EX with the following parameters of the "Small Hall" reverb:
- Depth: 8
- Time: 3

Thanks magicpiano, I like those settings, and I think I'll use them myself too.

Does anyone have an opinion on the Upright piano sound on the ES920?

I like to use it for stuff like The Entertainer, it has a more vintage kind of sound than the other settings. I'm also finding that for bluesy stuff I'm using more the SK-5 patch rather than the Jazz Clean


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Originally Posted by Adem
Originally Posted by magicpiano
That's nice but IMHO the EX piano patch at default is a little too clean and cold, especially in the powerful low/middle-low registers, so I would add some little enviromental reverb just to make the sound more natural.
Often I use the EX with the following parameters of the "Small Hall" reverb:
- Depth: 8
- Time: 3

Thanks magicpiano, I like those settings, and I think I'll use them myself too.
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Does anyone have an opinion on the Upright piano sound on the ES920?

I think the quality of the Upright samples is superior to that of the SK-EX and the EX samples. I hear more fine details in the Upright sound, more high frequencies... And they sound "clean", not a little muffled/compressed as in the SK-EX, or cold/digital as in the EX.

I wonder if the Jazz Clean patch you have on the ES920 is like my Jazz Grand patch I have on my CN37, which is based on the EX but it's modified to be brighter and to have a super-long and powerful sustained sound...

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Originally Posted by magicpiano
I wonder if the Jazz Clean patch you have on the ES920 is like my Jazz Grand patch I have on my CN37, which is based on the EX but it's modified to be brighter and to have a super-long and powerful sustained sound...

The Piano Remote apps seems to indicate that both the Jazz Clean and the Warm Grand are based on the SK-EX, while the Pop Grand, Modern Piano and Rock Piano are based on the EX, the Pop Grand 2 is based on the SK-5, and the Upright is it's own patch

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I haven't been able to work out the SK-5 properly yet. It's unusual. There's something I like about it, and also something I don't. Can't quite find a piece to suit it yet

The upright seems inconsistent to me. Perhaps it's part of its character but some of the notes sound very slightly out of tune with one another. For example if I play the A flat below middle C, and also play the A flat an octave lower, they don't sound in perfect harmony with one another. Some keys feel exactly harmonious, others not quite. Occasionally it feels like I'm playing the wrong notes.

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Do you guys also find the C#3 sample on the SK-5 to be a bit weird sounding? Overall weaker sound but with a sharper fast attack with weaker decay? It's subtle, especially when listening to it, but when playing it's noticeable.

Overall I really like the SK-5 for softer repertoire, but when recorded it seems to lack some air in the top end. Similarly, the SK-EX sounds a bit rounder when recorded, compared to the sound of it onboard/through speakers.

Another sound that I've been digging a lot is the Rhodes sound, especially with the auto pan...

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I’m away from my ES8 at the moment, but I recall a really lousy note on the tenor side of the bass-tenor “break” of the SK5 sample. It probably keeps me from selecting this sample a good deal more, because it’s otherwise quite good. Am rather surprised the technician missed it when they recorded the piano.


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Originally Posted by andredatele
Do you guys also find the C#3 sample on the SK-5 to be a bit weird sounding?

I thought it was me or my room's resonance. To me it sounds louder, I never really paid attention to details (attack, decay etc.). I reduced the key volume to the minimum with virtual technician and there was some improvement. Overall I think ES8 sounds OK-ish and that is it.

And SK-5 is my go-to sound (power-on default).


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