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Thoughts on this Piano?
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https://fineart.ha.com/itm/other/a-...-lotlinks-12202013&tab=MyBids-101116

It in good shape and I have an opportunity to purchase it at a lower price. I'd appreciate thoughts.

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If you are trying to make a quick buck, going to Vegas would be much easier and a lot more fun.

If you are interested in the instrument do you like the action and sound?

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I think it was rebuilt sometime between the late 1950's to around 1975.


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What do you mean by good shape? Have you had it evaluated by a piano tech? Is it in original condition - or has it been rebuilt at some point? No price is indicated in the ad - so it is unclear what you mean by purchasing it at a lower price. More details would help us provide feedback. Thanks !!


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I'm not a great player and don't know much. I think its beautiful and would look great in my home but I don't want to over pay. thanks for your response in any case.

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Originally Posted by Ed McMorrow, RPT
I think it was rebuilt sometime between the late 1950's to around 1975.
Ed - are you familiar with this particular instrument?


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What do you mean by good shape? Have you had it evaluated by a piano tech? Is it in original condition - or has it been rebuilt at some point? No price is indicated in the ad - so it is unclear what you mean by purchasing it at a lower price. More details would help us provide feedback. Thanks !!

sorry its 18k but I dont have mant details.

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It looks to have been partially rebuilt or refinished, from what little I can see. Serial number is from 1926. It depends on the quality of the work that was done and the current condition (could be good, great, clapped out, in need of repairs, or poorly refurbished), so it's literally impossible to say based on the information given.

A lot more detailed pictures (including with the action removed), a recording of it being played, and an independent technician's report would be what you need. I wouldn't bid on it, or advise others who know less about pianos, without that info first.


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Fancy casework usually sells for more. The major problem here is the 25% buyers premium. Keep that in mind if you intend to bid.


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Fancy casework usually sells for more. The major problem here is the 25% buyers premium. Keep that in mind if you intend to bid.

Thanks for the response. The auction is actually over. Price was 20k all in. I was offered a chance to purchase for a bit cheaper because the winner didn't want to ship. I'm local so a bit easier to move for me. I was just looking at it for mostly art but, of course, I care that it works. I know its not much details to ask for a specific price but I guess I was wondering some ballpark ideas for pianos like this... if its in good working condition then X$ if its Y then Z$ ... long shot smile Tjanks again

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Matthew777,
Forgive me but you remind me of an upmarket tour guide, i.e. one that gave Munich city tours to heads of state etc. At a restaurant dinner with her I learned that she had a Steinway D-274. When I asked her where she kept it and what did she liked to play she answered that she could not play piano and neither could her husband who was a bank manager. Moreover she said it was situated in her house upper floor gallery. I quickly changed the subject. I know you said that you play but I would never admit to wanting a piano 'for mostly art'.
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Forgive me but you remind me of an upmarket tour guide, i.e. one that gave Munich city tours to heads of state etc. At a restaurant dinner with her I learned that she had a Steinway D-274. When I asked her where she kept it and what did she liked to play she answered that she could not play piano and neither could her husband who was a bank manager. Moreover she said it was situated in her house upper floor gallery. I quickly changed the subject. I know you said that you play but I would never admit to wanting a piano 'for mostly art'.
Ian

Interesting take. I dont see an issue appreciating the art and craftsmanship. I have early phones, TVs, Radios that I dont listen to as well smile I have paintings and 3000 yr old sculptures. I appreciate it all. Not apples to apples, I know, but I do want this mostly for art.

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Matthew777,
Forgive me but you remind me of an upmarket tour guide, i.e. one that gave Munich city tours to heads of state etc. At a restaurant dinner with her I learned that she had a Steinway D-274. When I asked her where she kept it and what did she liked to play she answered that she could not play piano and neither could her husband who was a bank manager. Moreover she said it was situated in her house upper floor gallery. I quickly changed the subject. I know you said that you play but I would never admit to wanting a piano 'for mostly art'.
Ian

Interesting take. I dont see an issue appreciating the art and craftsmanship. I have early phones, TVs, Radios that I dont listen to as well smile I have paintings and 3000 yr old sculptures. I appreciate it all. Not apples to apples, I know, but I do want this mostly for art.
Exactly. There's nothing wrong with getting a piano mostly or exclusively for its aesthetic appeal.

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Matthew777,

This piano took more than a year to complete and it IS a beautiful piece of art. If you have the cash and you desire this instrument because it appeals to your sense of the beautiful, 18K or thereabouts is not overpaying. I'm going to assume if you have the resources to make this purchase, you'll be able to afford a whatever rebuild this piano might need. Go for it.


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Matthew777,

This piano took more than a year to complete and it IS a beautiful piece of art. If you have the cash and you desire this instrument because it appeals to your sense of the beautiful, 18K or thereabouts is not overpaying. I'm going to assume if you have the resources to make this purchase, you'll be able to afford a whatever rebuild this piano might need. Go for it.

Thanks so much for your thoughts! I really appreciate it.

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Interesting take. I dont see an issue appreciating the art and craftsmanship. I have early phones, TVs, Radios that I dont listen to as well smile I have paintings and 3000 yr old sculptures. I appreciate it all. Not apples to apples, I know, but I do want this mostly for art.
Exactly. There's nothing wrong with getting a piano mostly or exclusively for its aesthetic appeal.

I agree!

...but
It would be weird to have to field the question that would inevitably come out from guests:
"Do you play"
"No, I just spent 20 grand on it because it looks nice there..."


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It would seem to me that one could purchase some other work of art whose primary function is to "look nice there," rather than purchase one whose primary function may not be exploited.

Most of us here are avid piano fans for the music that a good instrument can provide. That is why some of us may find it difficult to embrace the thought of buying a piano primarily as art when another "objet d'art" may be more purposeful.

As others have said, however, it's your money to do with as you wish.

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Interesting take. I dont see an issue appreciating the art and craftsmanship. I have early phones, TVs, Radios that I dont listen to as well smile I have paintings and 3000 yr old sculptures. I appreciate it all. Not apples to apples, I know, but I do want this mostly for art.
Exactly. There's nothing wrong with getting a piano mostly or exclusively for its aesthetic appeal.

I agree!

...but
It would be weird to have to field the question that would inevitably come out from guests:
"Do you play"
"No, I just spent 20 grand on it because it looks nice there..."


Weird? I’m not so sure it would seem weird to non-pianists. Many households are decorated with expensive items because they ‘look nice there’. In addition, if you were asked about this piano, it is unlikely you would include the sales price in your response. Wouldn’t you just say’ no, I don’t really play but I appreciated the piano’.


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It would seem to me that one could purchase some other work of art whose primary function is to "look nice there," rather than purchase one whose primary function may not be exploited.

Most of us here are avid piano fans for the music that a good instrument can provide. That is why some of us may find it difficult to embrace the thought of buying a piano primarily as art when another "objet d'art" may be more purposeful.

As others have said, however, it's your money to do with as you wish.

Regards,

Right, I can understand that. I do play and maybe my daughter will soon. I know there are a lot of experts here so I thought I'd ask. Wasnt looking for opinions about how I manage my life smile I'm well aware that I can do what I want with my money. I've also reached out to a local expert since I'm realizing there aren't enough details for online help. Cheers!

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It is the runs along the same ideas as "you should not spend
$x amount on an upright because "you know what , you could have bought a grand for that price "

If someone collects art they may buy a Rennassance harpsichord or an avant guard glass piano. Both may not be for playing , but just admiring or collecting.

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