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Auf dem Wasser zu Singen vs. Gretchen - compare difficulty?
#3050683 11/28/20 10:20 PM
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I don't feel right about asking my teacher this because it would be asking for free advice. (I have I temporarily stopped my lessons until the pandemic is under control.) I'm trying to judge the difficulty of Liszt's transcription of "Auf dem Wasser zu Singen" vs. "Gretchen am Spinnrade." I played Gretchen quite decently and at tempo. I looked at the first few pages of "Wasser" and it didn't seem that difficult but I hate it when I hit a wall.

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Deborah
Re: Auf dem Wasser zu Singen vs. Gretchen - compare difficulty?
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Deborah:

While having only read through "Gretchen..." a few times, I can't make comparisons.

For me, the most difficult section of "Auf dem Wasser..." was that starting at measure 35 ("Übern den Wipfeln des westlichen Haines ...") where the melody is in the lower part of the right hand with accompaniment in the upper part of the right hand. Sometimes the melody and accompaniment are only a third apart and I found extremely difficult to bring out the melody under the third so close above it.

There are some big, left hand broken chords, ascending and descending, spanning over two octaves starting at measure 86, and while the section is not easy, the notes do fit well into the hand - at least into mine.

Again, the section starting at measure 86 where the melody is essentially in octaves but where, often the accompaniment and the melody break down into two-note phrases, it is very important to get the feel of the 1, 2; 1, 2; fingering in the lower part of the right hand. With the appropriate hand/finger movement this can be relatively easy, but it becomes a stretch towards the end of some of the phrases where the melody note is held on beat 4 and the 1, 2; 1, 2 fingering descends beneath it: a challenge for smaller hands, I would say.

I do like and admire this transcription and return to it on and off, but have not yet even come close to mastering it. But if you mastered "Gretchen ..." then this is certainly worth a good try.

Lots of slow practice without pedal and with some exaggeration of voicing the melody has been my approach.

Regards,

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Re: Auf dem Wasser zu Singen vs. Gretchen - compare difficulty?
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Thank you Bruce. That was exactly what I was looking for!

Hope you are well and that your Estonia is enjoying your very good company!


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Deborah

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