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Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-700 Series
SpastiK #3049848 11/26/20 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SpastiK
I´ve tried CA99 and I didn´t realised that "return bounce", but now checking the video it´s true and that´s very disturbing. Yamaha seems more stable. Another point to chose the new clp785 despite the long wait.
Have you actually played the CA99 and the 785?


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Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-700 Series
lgsml #3049869 11/26/20 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by lgsml
has anyone recently bump on clp-745 in stock anywhere in EU? I have called all local dealers but everyone says there will be no new supplies till Feb 2021 minimum


Im not sure where you are located im in greece.. but potentially (I guess) it could be shipped. if you’re interested, you should give them a call https://www.nakas.gr/prd/yamaha-clp-745-b-clavinova-ilektriko-piano-black they also have pe in stock and white

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-700 Series
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Originally Posted by lgsml
has anyone recently bump on clp-745 in stock anywhere in EU? I have called all local dealers but everyone says there will be no new supplies till Feb 2021 minimum


Im not sure where you are located im in greece.. but potentially (I guess) it could be shipped. if you’re interested, you should give them a call https://www.nakas.gr/prd/yamaha-clp-745-b-clavinova-ilektriko-piano-black they also have pe in stock and white

thanks a lot mate! it is really hard to find them now. I am in Austria, and I have also found a German shop with one black available, but I am afraid it is from showroom. Will fall back to your option if they confirm it is true.

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-700 Series
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Originally Posted by mareg
So I've just listened to this guy praising the clp775 on YouTube.
He described the key action as being better than 685/515 which is very different from everything we hear on this forum.
What leads you to make that assumption?

I posted (probably a dozen times by now) how the whole CLP-700 range all have better actions than the CLP-600 range (and the 515 has the 645 action).

The guy also mentioned that he didn't try the other CLP-700 models, so he makes no comparison there. He only had a chance to compare it to the Casio GP-500.

The only worrying part of the video was right at the beginning when he states: 'I'm from Germany, that's why I maybe sound crazy'.

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Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-700 Series
mareg #3049915 11/26/20 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mareg
So I've just listened to this guy praising the clp775 on YouTube.
He described the key action as being better than 685/515 which is very different from everything we hear on this forum.
I found it interesting as he described the action and actually showed it in his video.
He was enamored with the piano. The clp775 is marginally higher in price than the 745 where I live. But it has almost everything the 785 has for much lower price. This makes everything more difficult now.

775 review (honest)

The sound is really bad when he plays in his review. But he has some other videos where he play the instrument with better recordings. I must say it sounds lovely.
oh mate, thanks a lot you accidentally solved my shopping issue with that video - online store guy mentioned there looked really nice and reliable with good prices, so I just pre-ordered 745 from it : D

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-700 Series
SpastiK #3050002 11/27/20 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SpastiK
I´ve tried CA99 and I didn´t realised that "return bounce", but now checking the video it´s true and that´s very disturbing. Yamaha seems more stable. Another point to chose the new clp785 despite the long wait.

Well if you've tried it and didn't notice it, than it couldn't have been very disturbing wink
I think this is present on many key actions, but not so often to a disturbing degree.
I've noticed the ES8 do it disturbingly, but the CN39 (also RHIII) didn't seem to do it - but later in videos I saw that the CN39 actually does it too, at least a little bit wink
The problem is how to make the key go back as fast as possible to enable fast repetition, but not bounce excessively. So I think to judge this properly one should consider the bounciness and the repetition speed together. I've noticed noone in this community bothers to do any half-serious measurements of key action properties much beyond putting neat stacks of weights statically on keys.

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-700 Series
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Hey Guys,

Sorry for the delay. Work has been full-on. Overtime to the max. Pretty exhausted TBH. I'll be right though :-)



Originally Posted by mareg
Wow big thanks for the video foxy.

Stop kidding yourself. That is in no way shape or form is a beginner on that video. We are our worst judge as they say. I know I do the same. Beautiful I could feel you enjoy that piano a lot 😁👌

Thanks so much Mareg! Glad you enjoyed it. :-)

I'm definitely a beginner when it comes to actually reading music. I'll get my wife to tape a video and show the difference.

Today I officially started Alfred's Adult All-In-One piano course. So far so good. I'm getting through my fear of reading music!


Originally Posted by Tozen
That video is great! It is exactly what I was hoping for. By "external recording," I just meant a recording of the piano as it sounds through its speakers... not through its line-out. I get that many people prefer the line-out sound, but I'm amazed that so many piano dealers online *only* display that sound in their demos. Seeing as the speaker system is one of the main selling points of the CLP 785, refusing to capture how good that is feels like trying to sell a graphics card and then playing an 8-bit, retro arcade game on it! (Not a perfect analogy, but hopefully good enough)

Incidentally, this is exactly what happened in an otherwise great new demo of the clp 785 by Riverton Piano Company. Notice that it sounds exactly the same as their video of the CLP 745.

You sell yourself short. We all have a lot to learn, but I enjoyed listening to you play! Looking at the YouTube comments, it seems others agree. smile

If you decide to do another video, it would be cool to hear the Bosendorfer sound in a song. However, I'm actually completely satisfied by the video you already posted! I've been looking forward to hearing the CLP 785 in a decent recording and you provided it. Thanks so much!

Hope you have a great rest of the weekend.

Thanks mate! Happy to please the crowd here on PW! hahaha. I can tell you that to the 'ear' it sounds delightful. It doesn't sound muddy, it has such subtle nuances that feel just like a piano. Remembering that all my past 30+ years has been on a dodgy upright. So seriously, I think anything is going to be better. hahaha.

My playing is 'ok', but I've said before. I've hit a plateau and that's where I've been for YEARS. I keep going back to the stuff I remember. It's fun, but I simply want to expand my knowledge and playing further.

I'll doe a Bosendorfer recording on Sunday for you!

Glad you enjoyed the video, my friend. With the volume set at 90% OMG - it's LOUD, but not distorted at all. It's still crisp. Once you get some velocity going in your fingers the piano really does errr. liven up!!! It's delightful to play.

The one thing, not a major complaint is that you always (when you open or close it ), have to push the music rest and the end of the piano up and down. I wonder how long those hinges, screws will last before becoming loose? Not sure my friend.


Originally Posted by peterws
Beginner? Whew! Nice playing, nice stuff. What was it, if you don't mind me asking. Sounded modern, cool. Oh, and the piano wasn't bad either . . . . grin
Thanks Peter! What was I playing? The first one was just a mixture of chords, but the closest thing, is 'Let it Be' by the Beatles. The 2nd and 3rd one. I simply made up on the spot. Moving up and down the scales. Always kind of random. Is fun, plus i learn't many years ago. It's ok to make mistakes. I learn from them, and try not to do them again! hahaha.


Originally Posted by computron
Foxy, thanks for sharing the video! Wonderful playing, a great start to the journey!
Thanks!!! :-) I'm having SOOO much fun! I had a day off work today and I've spent a good two to three hours learning, playing, experimenting and learning how to read music. It's tough, but hey, this is journey will be YEARS in the making.

I really should do one of those, 'One year in piano journey' videos. Lol. At least at a minimum record what I can and can't do now.

Take care everyone and thanks for reading!
Foxy.

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Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-700 Series
LGabrielPhoto #3050054 11/27/20 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by LGabrielPhoto
Originally Posted by SpastiK
I´ve tried CA99 and I didn´t realised that "return bounce", but now checking the video it´s true and that´s very disturbing. Yamaha seems more stable. Another point to chose the new clp785 despite the long wait.
Have you actually played the CA99 and the 785?

I played CA99 couple of times. 785 I wish!! :-D I´m still waiting to try it. So far these are my first options but I can not make the final step until I play 785 to make sure.

I´ve tried the clp775 and I found it personally a little bit hard (=Roland LX708) more or less, so CA99 had better touch from my point of vew (despite the return bouncing that I didn´t realised). I also checked the 775 to listen 2 new pianofortes sounds and the result was pretty good. And comparing the sound of the harpshicord, for example, 775 is better than CA99 as it reproduces the 2nd key-return sound (key off or something like that, I can´t remember the technical word). That´s the tipical sound that a real harpshicord produces.

At any rate, I need to play 785 before making this "investment".

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Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-700 Series
foxy.au #3050563 11/28/20 04:35 PM
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Thanks for the message, Foxy. No pressure on the new movie for Sunday. Hope it is a good weekend!

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Here is a really nice demo of the 775 by Oostendorp Muziek. I've been looking forward to this movie, as this guy has done great presentations of many other digital pianos on his channel.


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Tony from Bonner's has done it!!!!

The buyers guide for the CLP-785



Watching now ... :-)


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foxy.au #3051523 12/01/20 06:23 AM
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And now Rimmer’s CLP-785 demo



Enjoy.


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And just in from Preston, Lancashire:


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Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-700 Series
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It seems that today was the "launch" day in Europe. I´ve also tried the clp 785 and definietly I confirmed my first option. After feeling the keys (less strong than 685 or 775), I think that Yamaha improved it a lot.


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Oh wow that last video was very convincing.

I guess I'll just have to wait whenever we get the 785 here in Canada sometimes next year hopefully. /cry


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Christmas came early! Great videos!

Of course... not as much fun as actually receiving the piano. wink

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And here's a cool video from ePianos.co.uk:



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Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-700 Series
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And here's a cool video from ePianos.co.uk:

Even the birds seem to like it!

Love how the 700 series still has 1980s MIDI ports smile

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Clp 785 ordered! In 10 days I´ll have it at home (from the central european stock in Germany to Spain). Crossing fingers! The best Xmas present ever after 15 years without playing the piano!!

I´m back guys!

Neighbors, keep calm, the clp785 comes with headphones! hahahaha


Scarlatti and Bach, be ready!! (after Hanon...)

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Congratulations, enjoy the new piano and don't forget to show us when it's set up!

Originally Posted by SpastiK
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^ Also, this.


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