2017 was our 20th year online!

Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 3 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments.
Over 100,000 members from around the world.
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Shop our online store for music lovers
SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Best of Piano Buyer
 Best of Piano Buyer
(ad)
Faust Harrison Pianos
Faust Harrison 100+ Steinway pianos
(ad)
Wessell Nickel & Gross
PianoForAll
Who's Online Now
40 members (Dr Bekken, Bentsch, David Boyce, DPAfficionado, Almar, Eric399, barbaram, Doug M., Eichhorn, Boboulus, 10 invisible), 481 guests, and 525 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Help me to chose my digital piano
#3048251 11/22/20 11:47 AM
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 3
S
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
S
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 3
Hi there, I am an intermediate piano player. I used to be decent when I was younger, playing the like of Chopin etudes or Beethoven tempest. 15 years after stopping, I want to return to this instrument which I always thought it was the purest. But I want to have a more fun approach. I will still consider classical pieces, but I also want to add my childhood video games music to my repertoire. Therefore, I am looking for fun and quality together.

From my first research, I thought that the CSP 170 was ideal for my purposes. But looking deeper, I think that its features were more like shallow and toying with music. So I would rather go for the brand new CLP series. Many reviewers acknowledge that for Yamaha CLP 700 series, the 775 is not worth the additional money compared to the 745. I even read that the 745 offers a better feeling regarding the action.

On the other hand, I was refusing to admit that I could consider Kawai pianos simply because they are not available in my country. But after listening plenty of videos, I can't deny that I simply appeal more to their sound/tone than Yamahas. This is annoying ! I wish I could prefer the bright and perfect tonality of Yamaha but Kawai just feels so sweat and warm to my ears.

Currently my hesitation is between CLP 745 and Kawai CA59 but I am also considering the CA79. How would you compare these two models, price/quality wise.

Considering the aforementioned, I am simply looking for advice and diverse opinions

Thank you, and apologies for the grammar.
Neil

(ad)
Sweetwater Gifts That Rock
Re: Help me to chose my digital piano
Skullkid #3048255 11/22/20 12:05 PM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 12,945
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 12,945
I the Kawai pianos are not available in your country then most of this is moot, isn't it?

Have you been able to try the various CLP models for yourself?

Re: Help me to chose my digital piano
Skullkid #3048259 11/22/20 12:20 PM
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 580
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 580
Originally Posted by Skullkid
Hi there, I am an intermediate piano player. I used to be decent when I was younger, playing the like of Chopin etudes or Beethoven tempest. 15 years after stopping, I want to return to this instrument which I always thought it was the purest. But I want to have a more fun approach. I will still consider classical pieces, but I also want to add my childhood video games music to my repertoire. Therefore, I am looking for fun and quality together.

From my first research, I thought that the CSP 170 was ideal for my purposes. But looking deeper, I think that its features were more like shallow and toying with music. So I would rather go for the brand new CLP series. Many reviewers acknowledge that for Yamaha CLP 700 series, the 775 is not worth the additional money compared to the 745. I even read that the 745 offers a better feeling regarding the action.

On the other hand, I was refusing to admit that I could consider Kawai pianos simply because they are not available in my country. But after listening plenty of videos, I can't deny that I simply appeal more to their sound/tone than Yamahas. This is annoying ! I wish I could prefer the bright and perfect tonality of Yamaha but Kawai just feels so sweat and warm to my ears.

Currently my hesitation is between CLP 745 and Kawai CA59 but I am also considering the CA79. How would you compare these two models, price/quality wise.

Considering the aforementioned, I am simply looking for advice and diverse opinions

Thank you, and apologies for the grammar.
Neil
I was in a similar situation testing Yamaha and Kawai several times while selling my grand to move to the digital one. First I wanted Yamaha because it was at a better price locally but luckily the stores that have Yamaha and Kawai are next to each other so I was able to go back and forth and for MY preference, the choice was easy for Kawai. Speaker sound AND touch moved me towards Kawai. Then I was hoping to go with the 59 first but the CA79 and CA99 got my attention. I was getting biased towards the 99 due to the soundboard but for MY ears, it sounded "congested" even moving away from the wall so in the end, I went for the CA79 and couldn't be happier. The one thing that tarnishes the experience a little is that while I hated the look of the LCD on the Yamahas...the Kawai looks very nice but dang its sluggish. Of course you can use your phone but still..no idea how Kawai thought that performance was acceptable for a touch screen in 2020
But of course YMMV smile

Last edited by LGabrielPhoto; 11/22/20 12:22 PM.

Kawai CA79 Rosewood
*Young Chang Y185 6'-1" (gone)
*Baldwin Hamilton Studio '67 (gone)
*Young Chang Y150 (Del F design) (gone)
Re: Help me to chose my digital piano
LGabrielPhoto #3048262 11/22/20 12:29 PM
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 525
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 525
We have to understand Kawai is a piano manufacturer first and foremost. Furthermore, they are not as large a company as the likes of Apple and Samsung so they do not have the means to invest as much into touch screens smile At least, they are already better than Yamaha's LCD as you mentioned laugh


Yamaha AvantGrand N1X
Re: Help me to chose my digital piano
Skullkid #3048274 11/22/20 01:09 PM
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 481
D
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
D
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 481
As Mac said, why try to choose between Kawai and Yamaha if Kawai is not available (or available but at a much higher price) in your country? Why not concentrate on choosing between the pianos you can buy and get service for.

If Yamaha is your only choice, choose the model with the action you like the most then if you absolutely cannot "warm up" to the Yamaha samples, using VSTs is always an option.

Re: Help me to chose my digital piano
Skullkid #3048454 11/23/20 04:12 AM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,739
S
3000 Post Club Member
Offline
3000 Post Club Member
S
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,739
Most Yamaha DP's have a range of voices that includes softer or mellow ones. The more advanced ones allow you to adjust the brightness too. Also, your ear and brain adapt to the sounds. After that there are VST's.

Re: Help me to chose my digital piano
Beowulf #3049133 11/24/20 07:00 PM
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 256
J
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
J
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 256
Originally Posted by Beowulf
We have to understand Kawai is a piano manufacturer first and foremost. Furthermore, they are not as large a company as the likes of Apple and Samsung so they do not have the means to invest as much into touch screens smile At least, they are already better than Yamaha's LCD as you mentioned laugh
Actually I really like the way the Korg SV2 has its user interface...
might be not so expensive in terms of parts and more user friendly and stable at the same time.


Kawai KDP-90
Re: Help me to chose my digital piano
Skullkid #3049295 11/25/20 09:00 AM
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 11
D
Junior Member
Offline
Junior Member
D
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 11
I had my last Yamaha for over 30 years and when researching what to replace it with I did the tour, Roland went first, the Casio GP310, it was much harder between the CLP 775 and the CA79 but the key action and the design plus the sound pushed me to do something I hadn't planned, and go Kawai.

I can only confirm I did make the best choice as the playing action is epic it just behaves like an upright acoustic and (like you with the CFX) I adore the SK-EX rendering


White Kawai CA79
Musical Scotsman

Moderated by  Piano World 

Link Copied to Clipboard
What's Hot!!
News from the Piano World
100,000!
---------------------
NEW! Sell Your Piano on our world famous Piano Forums!
---------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums RULES & HELP
-------------------
ADVERTISE on Piano World
(ad)
Pianoteq
Steinway Spiro Layering
(ad)
PianoDisc

PianoDisc
(ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad)
Mason & Hamlin Pianos
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Bach chorales for piano
by marklings - 01/19/21 04:32 AM
Introductions to the great composers
by Animisha - 01/19/21 02:43 AM
NAMM 2021 Keyboards & Digital Pianos
by Osho - 01/18/21 08:57 PM
Advice on Grey Market Yamahas - Melbourne, Vic
by Tim_Au - 01/18/21 08:08 PM
Faulty Anytime in Kawai GE-30 AT
by Lempriere - 01/18/21 07:39 PM
Download Sheet Music
Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads
Forum Statistics
Forums42
Topics204,374
Posts3,048,787
Members100,115
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
Please Support Our Advertisers


Faust Harrison 100+ Steinways

Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver

 Best of Piano Buyer

PianoTeq Bechstein
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads



 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


© copyright 1997 - 2021 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.4