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VSL Black Friday Deal
#3047709 11/20/20 12:56 PM
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—————————— price ——- BF deal —- Voucher
Synchron Bösendorfer Standard €285 €210 €158
Synchron Bösendorfer Imperial Full Library € 540 € 395 € 297
Synchron Bösendorfer Upright Standard Library € 165 € 125 € 94
Synchron Bösendorfer Upright Full Library € 290 € 220 € 165
Vienna Imperial € 295 € 195 € 147
ViennaKey € 24 € 15

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Mmmmmm.... Interesting. As if I needed another piano VST grin


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Interesting

But I don't fully get it, what's the voucher thing exactly?

And, I understand only bösendorfer deals this year, or is there more to come?

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This is the VSL summary of Black Friday deals
https://www.vsl.co.at/en/News/2020-11_Black_Friday_Deals

These are summaries of voucher discounts
https://www.vsl.co.at/en/News/2020-12_Vienna_Voucher
https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Product_Overview/Voucher

Vouchers are on offer, 4 for the price of 3. So, one could buy EUR300 in vouchers (3x EUR100) and receive EUR400 in voucher credit. There are some restrictions on voucher redemption so check out the site for more information.

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ViennaImperial is still a fantastic piano with its own character. Can recommend it!


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Originally Posted by newer player
Vouchers are on offer, 4 for the price of 3. So, one could buy EUR300 in vouchers (3x EUR100) and receive EUR400 in voucher credit. There are some restrictions on voucher redemption so check out the site for more information.

Ahh so there are vouchers on offer! Thanks Newer player your posts about products on offer are always very helpful! But.. I still don't understand how these voucher prices for the piano's are calculated. A voucher is worth €100. If the BF deal price of the synchron bösendorfer is €210, wouldn't that mean it's €110 when you also use a voucher?

Originally Posted by Gamma1734
ViennaImperial is still a fantastic piano with its own character. Can recommend it!

Thanks. I have demo'd the synchron bösendorfer and it's amazing, but I'm interested in both, how do you think they compare? (If you played the synchron bösendorfer)

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Here are the (not so obvious) maths

Synchron Bösendorfer Standard
€285 List Price

-€75 (26% BF discount calculated)
= €210 BF Deal

-€52 (25% max voucher discount implied)
= €158 BF Deal + Voucher Discount implied

So BF deal is 26% discount. With vouchers, discount can be up to 45%.

Each voucher needs to be used in full at one time. So in this transaction, you could spend:

€200 in vouchers (2 vouchers which cost you on average €150 (€200*.75)
€10 cash

**The maths are off somewhere by a couple of Euros but this is how I understand the general system.
**You need to buy the physical key also for €15 on offer. You might also pay for the insurance scheme.

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you have to buy 3 Voucher a 100€ and get 1 Voucher about 100€ for free.

That's how I understood it


„ Receive one additional Voucher for free when you purchase three Vienna Vouchers of the same value (€100 or €500) through December 31, 2020 in one order! All you need to do is put four Vouchers of the same value into the basket, and one of them will be free of charge! Multiple orders are accepted (e.g., 3 + 1 free, 6 + 2 free, 9 + 3 free, etc.).“

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Thanks for explaining guys. With the vouchers combined with the bf prices i'd say these are some amazing deals for these top quality piano's.


I thought it would work something like that, I think it's a pretty confusing way of pointing out the discount tough.

So if i'm not mistaken..

Originally Posted by U3piano
A voucher is worth €100. If the BF deal price of the synchron bösendorfer is €210, wouldn't that mean it's €110 when you also use a voucher? (or €10 when you use 2 vouchers)

that is still correct, right?

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Here's a comparison video I just made, partly because of your comment but I wanted to do something like that anyhow!


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I was hoping for the VSL Blüthner to be on special for BF. Looking at how the vouchers work for the Blüthner I can't see it saving me any money. I think for now I'll just save the money and hope that the Blüthner goes on special during the summer.

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I am sorry I forgot the link. It's of course the same as in the other thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D06fMrlvMwQ&feature=youtu.be


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Originally Posted by Gamma1734
I am sorry I forgot the link. It's of course the same as in the other thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D06fMrlvMwQ&feature=youtu.be

That's interesting. The Vienna Imperial you opened with seems to have some out-of-tune notes? smile At least it sounds so to me. But thanks for the comparison! I think the Synchron is better managed when the piano was recorded.

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Originally Posted by Gamma1734
I am sorry I forgot the link. It's of course the same as in the other thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D06fMrlvMwQ&feature=youtu.be

Good comparison, thanks!

I like both, but I think I like the synchron the best, it sounds like the recording quality is a bit higher or something. However I need both. smirk

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They are pretty clever, these guys. smile
Both have definitely their own aspects and I bet they did it on purpose. Well, it makes sense!
The out of tune notes are intentional, and actually I like it in certain contexts. I have never in my life played on a big grand which was perfectly in tune. It feels more 'home' when things are a bit out of tune. However, in recording situations it can be too much, hence I choose the very clean Synchron.

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A new video of the VSL Upright, Vienna Imperial and Synchron Bösendorfer

https://youtu.be/fXenpTC6L6c

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Originally Posted by klausi6
A new video of the VSL Upright, Vienna Imperial and Synchron Bösendorfer

https://youtu.be/fXenpTC6L6c

Finally a video that let's me hear what the una corda samples on the vienna imperial sound like. Wow, not disappointed! Such a shame the synchron piano's don't include them as well!

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Hey, could someone please explain how does the "Lowest Price with Voucher" thing work? It is stated that the lower price with a voucher would be € 297 for Bösendorfer Imperial but what would be the procedure for getting it at that price?

I've never owned a VSL instrument, had no previous experience nor an account there so bear with me please smile

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Pavlo if you look above in the thread it is actually explained. It's just confusing. Better to just know these vouchers are €100 or €500, and if you get 4 you only pay for 3 of them. Then, you can use them to buy products, you can use multiple vouchers to buy a product as well. But you can only use a voucher as a whole, so for example you can't buy a product that costs €95 and use a €100 voucher. (But you could add a vienna key for €15 even if you don't need it so the price would be €110 so you can use a voucher. wink )

I just wonder where the discounts are?

I woke up early at 6am this morning enthousiastic to get the vienna imperial, but no discounts yet. Ok it was very early, so I went for a long morning run/walk and I got back at 10am all hopeful the discounts would be there but still nothing yet! frown

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They changed the Website. The BF price is now available and
there is a 4 x Voucher Button.

300€ is to much for me.

I spend my money for 16 GB Ram and Garritan upgrade.


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